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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3692921" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Dodge and Mobility were stupid, stupid feat choices for him. He should've taken Rapid Shot and Manyshot, or Rapid Shot and Far Shot, or Rapid Shot and Weapon Focus in his ranged weapon. He'd be almost twice as effective if he only bothered to use Rapid Shot.</p><p></p><p>He also should've put a better score into Strength, and by now should own a composite longbow that adds his Strength bonus to damage (or, if wanting to be effective at closer ranges, he should've gotten Quick Draw as one of his feats along with Rapid Shot, and put his best score into Strength, and started wielding javelins, throwing axes, bolas, or spinning javelins; the latter are from Arms & Equipment Guide).</p><p></p><p>He's a poor ranged combatant because he hasn't bothered to make himself effective at doing damage. He's like a fighter who didn't bother with anything more than 13 Strength, and didn't bother with Power Attack, and didn't bother with Weapon Focus or Cleave. Or a spiked chain wielding fighter who didn't bother with Combat Expertise and Improved Trip, nor Weapon Focus or Power Attack.</p><p></p><p>The fact he chose to use a ranged weapon is only making him marginally less effective than he'd be with a greatsword, because he's wasted his feats and ability scores on being ineffective.</p><p></p><p>Remember that part of the advantage of a ranged combatant is that they're at less risk; they're not up close and personal with their foes, so they're in less immediate danger. His high Constitution is a waste; he only needs average Constitution, and should've put that score into Strength.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>So......he either needs to rebuild his character, or shift his focus.</strong></p><p>A flanking-oriented Rogue who relies on Sneak Attack, and sometimes Spring Attack after 6th-level, might be more effective with the way he's built his character so far. So multiclass into Rogue. Pick up Spring Attack as the 6th-level feat later. Rely on melee combat with Sneak Attack, flanking with an ally. Wield a greatsword or glaive (depending on if he'd prefer a bit more damage or the advantage of 10-foot reach).</p><p></p><p>Once he reaches 6th-level and takes Spring Attack, he'll be able to make use of his Skirmish ability from the Scout (I don't know when the class gets that ability, but it doesn't matter, it's of less importance than Sneak Attack at this point with his PC). Dash past an opponent, moving through a flanking position with an ally, attacking the opponent with Sneak Attack and Skirmish combined.</p><p></p><p>Maybe take another level of Ranger as well, for the two-weapon fighting style, to be more effective in melee with full-attack actions using Sneak Attack and two weapons, like a longsword and short sword. When using that set up, only rely on the greatsword or glaive when intending to use Spring Attack; when it looks like the opponent won't be too dangerous in close combat, he can afford to just use his longsword and short sword, moving into a flanking position and unleashing Sneak Attack full-attack actions with both weapons.</p><p></p><p>At later levels he could take Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, or Quick Draw, or Two-Weapon Defense, or Improved Critical, or Rapid Shot for the occasions when he'd actually have a reason to bother with ranged combat, despite the fact that he messed up his build for ranged combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3692921, member: 13966"] Dodge and Mobility were stupid, stupid feat choices for him. He should've taken Rapid Shot and Manyshot, or Rapid Shot and Far Shot, or Rapid Shot and Weapon Focus in his ranged weapon. He'd be almost twice as effective if he only bothered to use Rapid Shot. He also should've put a better score into Strength, and by now should own a composite longbow that adds his Strength bonus to damage (or, if wanting to be effective at closer ranges, he should've gotten Quick Draw as one of his feats along with Rapid Shot, and put his best score into Strength, and started wielding javelins, throwing axes, bolas, or spinning javelins; the latter are from Arms & Equipment Guide). He's a poor ranged combatant because he hasn't bothered to make himself effective at doing damage. He's like a fighter who didn't bother with anything more than 13 Strength, and didn't bother with Power Attack, and didn't bother with Weapon Focus or Cleave. Or a spiked chain wielding fighter who didn't bother with Combat Expertise and Improved Trip, nor Weapon Focus or Power Attack. The fact he chose to use a ranged weapon is only making him marginally less effective than he'd be with a greatsword, because he's wasted his feats and ability scores on being ineffective. Remember that part of the advantage of a ranged combatant is that they're at less risk; they're not up close and personal with their foes, so they're in less immediate danger. His high Constitution is a waste; he only needs average Constitution, and should've put that score into Strength. [B]So......he either needs to rebuild his character, or shift his focus.[/B] A flanking-oriented Rogue who relies on Sneak Attack, and sometimes Spring Attack after 6th-level, might be more effective with the way he's built his character so far. So multiclass into Rogue. Pick up Spring Attack as the 6th-level feat later. Rely on melee combat with Sneak Attack, flanking with an ally. Wield a greatsword or glaive (depending on if he'd prefer a bit more damage or the advantage of 10-foot reach). Once he reaches 6th-level and takes Spring Attack, he'll be able to make use of his Skirmish ability from the Scout (I don't know when the class gets that ability, but it doesn't matter, it's of less importance than Sneak Attack at this point with his PC). Dash past an opponent, moving through a flanking position with an ally, attacking the opponent with Sneak Attack and Skirmish combined. Maybe take another level of Ranger as well, for the two-weapon fighting style, to be more effective in melee with full-attack actions using Sneak Attack and two weapons, like a longsword and short sword. When using that set up, only rely on the greatsword or glaive when intending to use Spring Attack; when it looks like the opponent won't be too dangerous in close combat, he can afford to just use his longsword and short sword, moving into a flanking position and unleashing Sneak Attack full-attack actions with both weapons. At later levels he could take Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, or Quick Draw, or Two-Weapon Defense, or Improved Critical, or Rapid Shot for the occasions when he'd actually have a reason to bother with ranged combat, despite the fact that he messed up his build for ranged combat. [/QUOTE]
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