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Message: <blockquote data-quote="taferial" data-source="post: 3700628" data-attributes="member: 41867">Just wanted to mention my experience of a ranged fighter...I made a ranger with all his feats focused on archery, with the manyshot/ rapid shot feats and some fairly pokey stats iirc.He was great when it came to mowing down hundreds of 2 hd creatures but suffered greatly against anything bigger. I think he managed to get to 12th lvl before I finaly gave up on him.now the gm is quite stingy with kit (my 18th lvl warlock still has under 60k of stuff), PHB 2 wasnt out at the time and he refuses to have anything to do with Bo9s should all prolly be taken into account as regards the following points.book keeping - he had a quiver of elonah(?) rammed full of arrows and a hewards devoted entirely to back up arrows, about 800 of them (and he still needed to leave the dungeon and re-stock evry week).Damage resistance - DR absolutely crippled my damage output, one particular fight I put over 70 arrows into one guy for a net effect of about 30 damage, I used so many arrows in the 10 by 20 room the gm ruled the 10 squair around him had become dificult terain.AoO - thers very very few ways to avoid AoO as an archer, especially with the insane reach certain monsters have. It wasnt realy a problem in the open, but once you get inside it became harder and harder to keep out of the way. (though im not sure wether the no AoO on targets with cover rule was being aplied propperly)Cover/ friendly fire - party members frequently in the line of fire adding cover to the point I needed natural 20's to hit, the party can go off you very rapidly when they have a bum full of arrows. The cost in feats (and the lateness of there arival) to avoid cover penalties I found realy painful.Im tempted to try an archer/ knife thrower again, but my previous experience realy puts me off. Without some serious Character optermisation, which I dislike, I just cant see the viability of a ranged fighter.</blockquote>

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