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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1301430" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Well, believe me, I'm no genre snob. Hell, I love watching even the worst Dr. Who episodes, in all of their scientifically incorrect and anachrnostic glory. I would disagree about B5, though, because some key elements would not translate with some work, which was what I was getting at. To use a concept like the Psicorps and how they work in a fantasy setting (let alone the whole concept of Psi powers), you'd have to do some major retooling for a traditional fantasy setting. You can't transplant it to a small embassy somewhere without having to do major revisions to handle things like the markab plague, and rewriting it accordingly. The point I was getting at there was that most TV shows aren't made by people who understand SF at all. Therefore, they make a normal show, drop some SF element in, and expect it suddenly becomes an SF show.</p><p> </p><p>To use another example...does anyone here remember a show several years ago called "Covington Cross"? Anyone? Anyone? It was another in a long line of very short lived series to try and capitalize on the post-90210 teen-craze back in 1992, I think. Listen to this description from TV Tome, and you'll see what I mean:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>It was anachronistic, it was pedantic and it was terrible. The main characters all behaved like modern teenagers (with associated catch phrases and modern difficulties), and absolutely no attempt was made to make it even remotely logical. It was made by people who had no idea what life was like on a medieval estate...other than that people must have lived in castles, swung swords a lot and wore armor whose sole purpose was to create jokes about having to go to the bathroom. Everyone was apparently a knight, except for the angsty young daughter who complained constantly about wanting to be one. Oh, and it also wasted Nigel Terry.</p><p> </p><p>The point is that most SF is crap on TV because most SF is made by people who either don't know how to do SF or don't care to try. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Oh, and believe me, I wholeheartedly agree. Did I mention how much I love Dr. Who and Blake's 7, even at their worst moments? I enjoy SF shows that are totally illogical, anachronistic or just plain silly. Brisco County Jr. was a fantastic show, for example, but it made little or no sense from an SF standpoint. Was it an SF show? That's a matter for debate, of course, since it could also just be a western when it wanted to be. But I loved the hell out of that show.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>That's really where I was going. I probably didn't make it clear because I was hungry. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>I just want to see good stories, told well. I like fantastic elements, be they magical, SF or whatever. What I really want is someone to get HBO to make an SF series. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1301430, member: 151"] Well, believe me, I'm no genre snob. Hell, I love watching even the worst Dr. Who episodes, in all of their scientifically incorrect and anachrnostic glory. I would disagree about B5, though, because some key elements would not translate with some work, which was what I was getting at. To use a concept like the Psicorps and how they work in a fantasy setting (let alone the whole concept of Psi powers), you'd have to do some major retooling for a traditional fantasy setting. You can't transplant it to a small embassy somewhere without having to do major revisions to handle things like the markab plague, and rewriting it accordingly. The point I was getting at there was that most TV shows aren't made by people who understand SF at all. Therefore, they make a normal show, drop some SF element in, and expect it suddenly becomes an SF show. To use another example...does anyone here remember a show several years ago called "Covington Cross"? Anyone? Anyone? It was another in a long line of very short lived series to try and capitalize on the post-90210 teen-craze back in 1992, I think. Listen to this description from TV Tome, and you'll see what I mean: It was anachronistic, it was pedantic and it was terrible. The main characters all behaved like modern teenagers (with associated catch phrases and modern difficulties), and absolutely no attempt was made to make it even remotely logical. It was made by people who had no idea what life was like on a medieval estate...other than that people must have lived in castles, swung swords a lot and wore armor whose sole purpose was to create jokes about having to go to the bathroom. Everyone was apparently a knight, except for the angsty young daughter who complained constantly about wanting to be one. Oh, and it also wasted Nigel Terry. The point is that most SF is crap on TV because most SF is made by people who either don't know how to do SF or don't care to try. Oh, and believe me, I wholeheartedly agree. Did I mention how much I love Dr. Who and Blake's 7, even at their worst moments? I enjoy SF shows that are totally illogical, anachronistic or just plain silly. Brisco County Jr. was a fantastic show, for example, but it made little or no sense from an SF standpoint. Was it an SF show? That's a matter for debate, of course, since it could also just be a western when it wanted to be. But I loved the hell out of that show. That's really where I was going. I probably didn't make it clear because I was hungry. :) I just want to see good stories, told well. I like fantastic elements, be they magical, SF or whatever. What I really want is someone to get HBO to make an SF series. :D [/QUOTE]
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