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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 3924534" data-attributes="member: 15999">I have no idea if 4E is going to fix multiclassing.  But what exactly needs fixing?  What does and doesn't work in 3.5?  Spellcasting, right?  Ftr/Rog combos seem viable mixed any which way.The Ftr1/WizX, primarily a wizard, is pretty well balanced in the core rules.  For a player who values flexibility, this character's increased options and durability make up for the loss of one-half of a spell level. The FtrX/Wiz1, primarily a fighter, is a very viable build under the core rules, losing relatively little and gaining quite a bit.  The Will save, the familiar's bonuses, True Strike, Feather Fall, and the ability to use wands all remain useful even in armor.  The FtrX/WizX is probably the least viable in the core rules.  The Eldritch Knight class is pretty much essential here, allowing a Ftr/Wiz who is one spell level behind a pure wizard and 3 BAB behind a pure fighter. What are the solutions other than using EK?You can't give 1/2 of the levels in other classes as effective wizard levels.  The Ftr8/Wiz1 would then become MUCH more powerful than a Ftr9.  You could give 1/2 of the levels in other classes as caster level increase, but by itself it won't be enough for the FtrX/WizX -- EK will still be a better patch.Perhaps you could add 1/2 of other classes to your caster class level (both CL and spells per day), up to a maximum of your current level in the casting class. In that case, Ftr7/Wiz1 would cast as Wiz2, Ftr4/Wiz4 would cast as Wiz6, and Ftr2/Wiz7 would cast as Wiz8.  Looks about right.  Ftr6/Wiz6 would be similar to Ftr1/Wiz5/EK6, though a little more martial and less magical; Ftr4/Wiz8 would give you a closer match to the EK.Clr6/Wiz6 would cast as Clr9 and Wiz9, just as would the Clr3/Wiz3/MT6.At higher levels, the patch starts to fall behind the PrCs, but I think it works better at low levels (e.g. Ftr2/Wiz2) and equally well at mid levels.Thoughts?  I'm sort of sketching out a BECM-3.5 hybrid, and I'd like to keep 3.5's multiclassing rules... just want to patch up the weak spots.</blockquote>

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