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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3276282" data-attributes="member: 3929">Ok, I get that you won't accept suggestions from outside the PHB, MM, DMG. Right.I get that you won't use turn undead; I don't think your reasoning for it is sound, but it's your character.So the Cleric class is out, since the only way to use those Turn Undead uses is to power Divine Feats, which arn't core. So don't play a cleric. Right, next. ---How much metagame knowledge leaks into in-character discussion? When an NPC says he's a priest, all I know is that he believes in a god, looks after his charges, and converts people to his faith; I do not know he is classed as a Cleric. Like Lord Shojo in the Order of the Stick comic, he could very well be an Aristocrat. Your fellow player asking you, "Your PC is a Priest, right?" isn't asking after your character's profession, which "priest" is, he's asking Character Class; a PC's character class can be wholly different from their profession; ordained Fighters can administer last rights to fallen comrades; monks may use their skills to burgle residences for their organizations; sorcerers may travel the land spreading the word of their god.So if your upset player doesn't understand that in-character professions don't equal metagame mechanics, perhaps you should suggest that he become less obtuse.So since you recognize it as a 2e-impression holdover and a misrememberance, perhaps you'd like to reconsider the Druid as a possible solution?You don't need 3rd party stuff to fashion a concept. You rejected the idea of a bard acting as a church representative because he casts arcane spells: nowhere in any of the books is there such a restriction. Nowhere does it say, "Only clerics can be priests". Nor do the rules restrict the character's belief as to the source of his ability.You want a character who casts spells, fights, is his community's priest, is close to nature but you refuse to use the cleric class?Barbarian/Sorcerer.Bard. Ranger. Druid.Take ranks in Knowledge (Religion), Diplomacy, Heal and Profession(Priest)Each one of those classes can be your man, and can satisfy your concept. Concepts are not builds; many builds may reflect one concept. How many "a world weary soldier back from the front" builds are there? Thousands, to be sure. The same is true for your concept.</blockquote>

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