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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 3277632" data-attributes="member: 307">And how does he know the individual cannot cast divine spells? How does he distinguish between a bard casting cure light wounds and a cleric casting the same spell? How does he distinguish between an arcane caster casting bear's endurance and a divine one casting the exact same spell? If he carries the same symbols of office, calls himself the same thing, and so on, how does anyone tell the difference? Not even the use of Spellcraft tells the difference.And my examples were about arcane and divine casters casting the exact same spells. How does the "commoner" tell the difference? They have the exact same effect. How do you tell the difference?Furthermore, staying true to the source material, exactly why do you think there is a distinction between arcane and divine magic? Vaniamoinen certainly would not have seen such a difference. Magic was magic. There was no "divine" magic or "arcane" magic.Even when they cast the exact same spells? How so?Or you go to a wizard or bard, who can pretty much take care of most of those things with arcane spells.Or perhaps they are worrying over semantic distinctions that have no actual meaning in-game.</blockquote>