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<blockquote data-quote="Herobizkit" data-source="post: 3328659" data-attributes="member: 36150"><p>When it boils right down to it, all that's going on is an obvious difference in playing style.</p><p></p><p>You (The OP) seem to be a role-player, wanting in-depth descriptions of your sources of powers and references to materials outside of D&D to support your concept. I'd love to have you as a player.</p><p></p><p>The other players seem to be Tab A-Slot B players, using the game mechanics to solve their in-game difficulties; they make assumptions on your character based on what they've read in the PHB, and the DM supports this by disallowing anything outside of the core books. He's a dirty coremonger (props to anyone who remmebers my coining this word a long time ago), and IMO such people should be thumped soundly on the head with all three core books at once. Things that do not change or grow, stagnate and die.</p><p></p><p>All that aside, you need to get over what the PHB labels you and the labels that the players will enforce upon you and just make what you want. Be a Druid. Then multi- into Cleric. Or play a Favoured Soul. Or follow the old 1e multi-class Bard model and go Fighter/Thief/Druid. </p><p></p><p>As for the guy who demands you turn undead, gently remind him that there were a slew of 2e specialty priests (from FR) and faith models (from the Cleric kit book) that did NOT traditionally turn undead but offered some kind of payoff as a result. Since your 3.x DM isn't willing to accomodate you, why should you feel the need to accomodate them?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herobizkit, post: 3328659, member: 36150"] When it boils right down to it, all that's going on is an obvious difference in playing style. You (The OP) seem to be a role-player, wanting in-depth descriptions of your sources of powers and references to materials outside of D&D to support your concept. I'd love to have you as a player. The other players seem to be Tab A-Slot B players, using the game mechanics to solve their in-game difficulties; they make assumptions on your character based on what they've read in the PHB, and the DM supports this by disallowing anything outside of the core books. He's a dirty coremonger (props to anyone who remmebers my coining this word a long time ago), and IMO such people should be thumped soundly on the head with all three core books at once. Things that do not change or grow, stagnate and die. All that aside, you need to get over what the PHB labels you and the labels that the players will enforce upon you and just make what you want. Be a Druid. Then multi- into Cleric. Or play a Favoured Soul. Or follow the old 1e multi-class Bard model and go Fighter/Thief/Druid. As for the guy who demands you turn undead, gently remind him that there were a slew of 2e specialty priests (from FR) and faith models (from the Cleric kit book) that did NOT traditionally turn undead but offered some kind of payoff as a result. Since your 3.x DM isn't willing to accomodate you, why should you feel the need to accomodate them? [/QUOTE]
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