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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fangorn Athran" data-source="post: 3521707" data-attributes="member: 31892"><p>And I think you are reading to much into the literal definitions of the rules. You need to look at HiPs in the spirit of it. The Shadowdancer is one who bends shadows to there will using it to conceal themselves specifically for Hide in plain sight. While it does not specifically state that the Shadowdancer uses the shadows to hide in plains sight they are required to be within 10 ft of a shadow. Now if the shadowdancer didn't use this shadow to hide themseleves then there would be no need to be near the shadow, but since they do need it it can be infered that the Shadowdancers needs it to manipulate it to hide with it. There True Seeing can apply as it is using shadow to hide. Now yes in a literal, strict adherence to the exact definition of the rules for True Seeing could be applied in a manner to counter this argument, but these rules are open for interpretation to any DM as was the intention by Wizards of the Coast, they are not set in stone such that any interpretation changes another. Most supernatural abilities lack clear definite rules, Hide in Plain sight for example doesn't not say why the shadows within 10 ft are required yet an interpretation such as mine is a valid application to the ruling to keep with the spirit of both True Seeing and Hide in Plain sight. These rules can't just be defined by the books but by logical function. In Hips case one cannot not simply disappear from casual observance with out some sort of magic, either through invisibility or manipulating shadows to conceal oneself like Hide in Plain Sight.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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