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Does Water Breathing allow spell casting?
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<blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 222780" data-attributes="member: 413"><p>From a rules perspective all this talk about the properties of water and air and whether or not sound travels better in water, etc. are irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>From the SRD for water breathing:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From the section on spell components:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So...a verbal component must be spoken in a strong voice. A silence spell or a gag ruins the spell. The description for water breathing makes no mention of having an effect on the ability to speak underwater...in general spells do exactly what they say they do and nothing more, so the spell does not affect speaking under water.</p><p></p><p>So a DM must apply the same rule to casting spells with verbal components underwater irregardless of whether or not the caster is under the effect of a Water Breathing spell. Can the character speak with a strong voice under water? Probably not. Even if his lungs, mouth and throat fill with water, the ability to speak in a clear strong voice will likely be compromised enough to make it impossible unless the character in question is a creature who naturally breathes(and speaks) under water. </p><p></p><p>As for material components...that probably depends upon the component:</p><p></p><p>A gem?...not affected by water. </p><p></p><p>A strand of spider web? Spiders spin webs under water...the only question is, can the caster get a hold of it in water? I'd say it can work if the caster got it in his hand prior to going in the water. </p><p></p><p>Dust? I've never seen wet dust. </p><p></p><p>A drop of acid? It would instantly be diluted to the point that it was no longer acidic...</p><p></p><p>etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Uller, post: 222780, member: 413"] From a rules perspective all this talk about the properties of water and air and whether or not sound travels better in water, etc. are irrelevant. From the SRD for water breathing: From the section on spell components: So...a verbal component must be spoken in a strong voice. A silence spell or a gag ruins the spell. The description for water breathing makes no mention of having an effect on the ability to speak underwater...in general spells do exactly what they say they do and nothing more, so the spell does not affect speaking under water. So a DM must apply the same rule to casting spells with verbal components underwater irregardless of whether or not the caster is under the effect of a Water Breathing spell. Can the character speak with a strong voice under water? Probably not. Even if his lungs, mouth and throat fill with water, the ability to speak in a clear strong voice will likely be compromised enough to make it impossible unless the character in question is a creature who naturally breathes(and speaks) under water. As for material components...that probably depends upon the component: A gem?...not affected by water. A strand of spider web? Spiders spin webs under water...the only question is, can the caster get a hold of it in water? I'd say it can work if the caster got it in his hand prior to going in the water. Dust? I've never seen wet dust. A drop of acid? It would instantly be diluted to the point that it was no longer acidic... etc. [/QUOTE]
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