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<blockquote data-quote="cblackthorne" data-source="post: 459197" data-attributes="member: 8677"><p>Datt,</p><p></p><p>My apologies to you if you got the wrong idea. Im not trying to bash the playtesters. I know a few people that were involved in the playtesting. But the final product that WOTC delivered still has alot of holes. </p><p></p><p>I really am a big fan of Dungeons & Dragons. Ive written articles for the Dragon and even sold a module to TSR, so I think I can speak as a "devoted follower."</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think the more exact you write the rules, the more problems you cause if you leave something out or accidently write a conflicting rule. Look at Star Fleet Battles for example. In many cases, they didn't give enough examples of what their intentions were with certain rules (i.e. magic bonus/effects stacking). I think thats pretty evident with the size of the FAQ document WOTC posts on the web site. At last count its over 80+ pages long. Thats a book in itself.</p><p></p><p>AD&D 2nd Edition was free formed for a reason, so that it was mostly up to the group or the DM to be the "final word" and not a page somewhere in the book.</p><p></p><p>You are correct, they did alot of things right with 3rd Edition, but I still dont like the way they wrote the combat rules (AoO, facing, flanking, etc.) and feats. I wished they would have done something better.</p><p></p><p>This whole mess with E-tools was the gold piece that broke the dragon's back. I bought the first copy that arrived in my area. I spents dozens of hours mofying the charts and databases to get it to work and it still doesn't figure things correctly.</p><p></p><p>Considering the amount of money I have spent on 3rd Edition, I deserve to have a better all around product than what is there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cblackthorne, post: 459197, member: 8677"] Datt, My apologies to you if you got the wrong idea. Im not trying to bash the playtesters. I know a few people that were involved in the playtesting. But the final product that WOTC delivered still has alot of holes. I really am a big fan of Dungeons & Dragons. Ive written articles for the Dragon and even sold a module to TSR, so I think I can speak as a "devoted follower." Personally, I think the more exact you write the rules, the more problems you cause if you leave something out or accidently write a conflicting rule. Look at Star Fleet Battles for example. In many cases, they didn't give enough examples of what their intentions were with certain rules (i.e. magic bonus/effects stacking). I think thats pretty evident with the size of the FAQ document WOTC posts on the web site. At last count its over 80+ pages long. Thats a book in itself. AD&D 2nd Edition was free formed for a reason, so that it was mostly up to the group or the DM to be the "final word" and not a page somewhere in the book. You are correct, they did alot of things right with 3rd Edition, but I still dont like the way they wrote the combat rules (AoO, facing, flanking, etc.) and feats. I wished they would have done something better. This whole mess with E-tools was the gold piece that broke the dragon's back. I bought the first copy that arrived in my area. I spents dozens of hours mofying the charts and databases to get it to work and it still doesn't figure things correctly. Considering the amount of money I have spent on 3rd Edition, I deserve to have a better all around product than what is there. [/QUOTE]
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