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<blockquote data-quote="cblackthorne" data-source="post: 459602" data-attributes="member: 8677"><p>Range REG,</p><p></p><p>I appreciate your point of view. You have been playing about as long as I have and Im sure you have played as many systems as well, so I really respect your opinion.</p><p></p><p>I only dislike the new combat rules and feats. I liked the new spells, and the character development.</p><p></p><p>I liked it when they started the NWP skills in in 2nd Edition and then expanded on them in 3rd Edition with the skills. I think they realized the value of skills making a character more three dimensional. Part of that might be the fact that some of the developers for 3rd Edition worked previously for other game companies whose systems were more skill based.</p><p></p><p>I dont like the feat system. I think its way too much to keep track of in character development and modifications. It also reminds me too much of Magic The Gathering, and I really dislike that game.</p><p></p><p>The combat system is no longer straightforward and where they came up with some of the rules is an enigma. Here is an example. Im using a longspear (10 ft reach) and you run by me. According to what is written in the rules I can't hit you with an attack of opportunity.</p><p></p><p>Ive been fighting heavy weapons in the SCA for 16 years and I can tell you for a fact that if you try to run by me I can still hit you with the shaft of the spear (as if it was a club or staff).</p><p></p><p>My point is, if you are going to write a rule like AoO, you better think it through before you publish it or don't bother. </p><p></p><p>Same thing goes for an ambush attack. If an NPC is walking town an alley totally unaware that an attack is coming, a character gets no bonus for attacking from behind. Yes, they do not get a dexterity bonus, but thats just it. The dex is a BONUS not standard. An average person has no dex bonus to start with so a level 20 fighter isnt going to have any kind of upper hand by attacking someone unaware? Thats completely wrong.</p><p></p><p>The point is really moot. Our group has already voted and decided to change systems. I will continue to use DnD for source material and hope that some of the problems get fixed. Possibly I need to look into some of the other campaign books, maybe they filled in the holes left by WOTC.</p><p></p><p>Chris</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cblackthorne, post: 459602, member: 8677"] Range REG, I appreciate your point of view. You have been playing about as long as I have and Im sure you have played as many systems as well, so I really respect your opinion. I only dislike the new combat rules and feats. I liked the new spells, and the character development. I liked it when they started the NWP skills in in 2nd Edition and then expanded on them in 3rd Edition with the skills. I think they realized the value of skills making a character more three dimensional. Part of that might be the fact that some of the developers for 3rd Edition worked previously for other game companies whose systems were more skill based. I dont like the feat system. I think its way too much to keep track of in character development and modifications. It also reminds me too much of Magic The Gathering, and I really dislike that game. The combat system is no longer straightforward and where they came up with some of the rules is an enigma. Here is an example. Im using a longspear (10 ft reach) and you run by me. According to what is written in the rules I can't hit you with an attack of opportunity. Ive been fighting heavy weapons in the SCA for 16 years and I can tell you for a fact that if you try to run by me I can still hit you with the shaft of the spear (as if it was a club or staff). My point is, if you are going to write a rule like AoO, you better think it through before you publish it or don't bother. Same thing goes for an ambush attack. If an NPC is walking town an alley totally unaware that an attack is coming, a character gets no bonus for attacking from behind. Yes, they do not get a dexterity bonus, but thats just it. The dex is a BONUS not standard. An average person has no dex bonus to start with so a level 20 fighter isnt going to have any kind of upper hand by attacking someone unaware? Thats completely wrong. The point is really moot. Our group has already voted and decided to change systems. I will continue to use DnD for source material and hope that some of the problems get fixed. Possibly I need to look into some of the other campaign books, maybe they filled in the holes left by WOTC. Chris [/QUOTE]
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