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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9218205" data-attributes="member: 18">I am absolutely certain that WotC's design decision makers, specifically Jeremy Crawford thinks that all unarmed attacks and natural weapons and unarmoured or natural AC are drastically more powerful than they actually are.I don't think it's a Stunning Strike thing or anything. I think it's really unarmed/natural weapons and unarmoured/natural AC which is what is causing the problem here. See for example, the design of the Brawler Fighter in the previous playtest packet - it had bizarre limitations, which from a balance perspective, made no sense, like it got a Bonus Action unarmed attack every round, but it wasn't allowed to use it as an attack, only a grab or shove. Nonsensical. It also didn't do very much unarmed damage.Likewise feats allowing unarmed damage allow very low values, but WotC acts like they're dangerously powerful.Similarly most races with natural weapons seem to be balanced as if the natural weapon was something serious and powerful, not a bad joke that most classes got literally zero use out of in their entire career.There's nothing we can do about this - and I'd bet money that when Crawford is no longer in charge of D&amp;D, this abruptly changes on the next edition or version or whatever.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9218205, member: 18"] I am absolutely certain that WotC's design decision makers, specifically Jeremy Crawford thinks that all unarmed attacks and natural weapons and unarmoured or natural AC are drastically more powerful than they actually are. I don't think it's a Stunning Strike thing or anything. I think it's really unarmed/natural weapons and unarmoured/natural AC which is what is causing the problem here. See for example, the design of the Brawler Fighter in the previous playtest packet - it had bizarre limitations, which from a balance perspective, made no sense, like it got a Bonus Action unarmed attack every round, but it wasn't allowed to use it as an attack, only a grab or shove. Nonsensical. It also didn't do very much unarmed damage. Likewise feats allowing unarmed damage allow very low values, but WotC acts like they're dangerously powerful. Similarly most races with natural weapons seem to be balanced as if the natural weapon was something serious and powerful, not a bad joke that most classes got literally zero use out of in their entire career. There's nothing we can do about this - and I'd bet money that when Crawford is no longer in charge of D&D, this abruptly changes on the next edition or version or whatever. [/QUOTE]

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