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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 6932232" data-attributes="member: 6775477"><p>That's certainly the difference. Unfortunately I've played with far too many players who have tried to slip one by in an attempt to "win." In fact one player (whom I no longer associate with) openly admits that his job as a player is to ruin the DM's adventures & campaign. I am fortunate to now be part of a group of great players who understand my job is provide challenges for them (and serve as a neutral referee as they face them) while we create a story together.</p></blockquote><p></p>