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<blockquote data-quote="DanMcS" data-source="post: 1442447" data-attributes="member: 6530">Vehicle stats, take 2Updated with regard to <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20modern/fb/20040323a" target="_blank">Rich Redman's new Notes from the Bunker</a>There are a couple of errors in his vehicle hp table, which I've fixed.&nbsp; Hps are based on the unloaded weight.Weight/ hps[code]100 lbs. 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 50 tons 62 120 lbs. 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 60 tons 64 150 lbs. 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 80 tons 66 200 lbs. 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 100 tons 68 250 lbs. 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 120 tons 70 300 lbs. 12&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 150 tons 72 400 lbs. 14&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 200 tons 74 500 lbs. 16&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 250 tons 76 600 lbs. 18&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 300 tons 78 800 lbs. 20&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 400 tons 80 1,000 lbs. 22&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 500 tons 82 1,200 lbs. 24&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 600 tons 84 1,500 lbs. 26&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 800 tons 86 2,000 lbs. 28&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1,000 tons 88 2,500 lbs. 30&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1,200 tons 90 3,000 lbs. 32&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1,500 tons 92 4,000 lbs. 34&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2,000 tons 94 5,000 lbs. 36&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2,500 tons 96 3 tons 38&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3,000 tons 98 4 tons 40&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4,000 tons 100 5 tons 42&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5,000 tons 102 6 tons 44&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6,000 tons 104 8 tons 46&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8,000 tons 106 10 tons 48&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10,000 tons 108 12 tons 50&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 12,000 tons 110 15 tons 52&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 15,000 tons 112 20 tons 54&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 20,000 tons 114 25 tons 56&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 25,000 tons 116 30 tons 58&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 30,000 tons 118 40 tons 60&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 50,000 tons 120 [/code]You can calculate maneuverability and initiative modifier from the size; take the larger of the wingspan and the length to compare to the size chart.The modifiers he gives in the article for maneuverability seem to be wrong; he's working from a base of 0, instead of a base equal to the size modifier.Equipment bonuses for maneuverability in aircraft are based on the ratio of loaded weight to horsepower.&gt;30:1 : -2&gt;20:1 : -110:1 to 20:1 : 0&lt;10:1 : +1&lt;5:1&nbsp; : +2These equipment bonuses are in addition to the size modifier, which should be figured in.Taking some planes from the <a href="http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey.htm" target="_blank">Air Force Museum</a> page, I can do some quick numbers.<a href="http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey1.htm" target="_blank">Wright 1909 Military Flier</a>(740 pounds unloaded, 36.5' span, 28.9' length, engine 30.6 hp, top speed 42 mph)hp 20, hardness 0, size G, init -4, maneuver (ratio 30+ if pilot weighs over 160 pounds!) -6, top speed 74 squares, 7 at chase speed.This plane is so light, and the engine so small, that its maneuverability can actually change based on the size of the pilot, from -6 to -5 if they are small.<a href="http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey5.htm" target="_blank">Sopwith F-1 Camel</a>(1482 pounds unloaded, 28' span, 18.75' length, engine 130 hp, top speed 112 mpg)hp 26, hardness 3, size H, init -2, maneuver (ratio ~12) -2, top speed 197 squares, 20 at chase speed.<a href="http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey8a.htm" target="_blank">De Havilland DH-4</a>(3,557 pounds loaded, so maybe 3000; 43.5' span, 30.5' length, engine 400 hp, max speed 128 mph)hp 32, hardness 3, size G, init -4, maneuver (ratio 8.89) -3, top speed 225 squares, 22 at chase speed.<a href="http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey4c.htm" target="_blank">Fokker D. VII</a>(1540 unloaded, 1939 lbs loaded; 29.25' span, 22.9' length, engine 185 hp, max speed 124 mph)hp 26, hardness 3, size H, init -2, maneuver (ratio 10.5) -2, top speed 218 squares, 22 at chase speed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DanMcS, post: 1442447, member: 6530"] [b]Vehicle stats, take 2[/b] Updated with regard to [url=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20modern/fb/20040323a]Rich Redman's new Notes from the Bunker[/url] There are a couple of errors in his vehicle hp table, which I've fixed. Hps are based on the unloaded weight. Weight/ hps [code] 100 lbs. 2 50 tons 62 120 lbs. 4 60 tons 64 150 lbs. 6 80 tons 66 200 lbs. 8 100 tons 68 250 lbs. 10 120 tons 70 300 lbs. 12 150 tons 72 400 lbs. 14 200 tons 74 500 lbs. 16 250 tons 76 600 lbs. 18 300 tons 78 800 lbs. 20 400 tons 80 1,000 lbs. 22 500 tons 82 1,200 lbs. 24 600 tons 84 1,500 lbs. 26 800 tons 86 2,000 lbs. 28 1,000 tons 88 2,500 lbs. 30 1,200 tons 90 3,000 lbs. 32 1,500 tons 92 4,000 lbs. 34 2,000 tons 94 5,000 lbs. 36 2,500 tons 96 3 tons 38 3,000 tons 98 4 tons 40 4,000 tons 100 5 tons 42 5,000 tons 102 6 tons 44 6,000 tons 104 8 tons 46 8,000 tons 106 10 tons 48 10,000 tons 108 12 tons 50 12,000 tons 110 15 tons 52 15,000 tons 112 20 tons 54 20,000 tons 114 25 tons 56 25,000 tons 116 30 tons 58 30,000 tons 118 40 tons 60 50,000 tons 120 [/code] You can calculate maneuverability and initiative modifier from the size; take the larger of the wingspan and the length to compare to the size chart. The modifiers he gives in the article for maneuverability seem to be wrong; he's working from a base of 0, instead of a base equal to the size modifier. Equipment bonuses for maneuverability in aircraft are based on the ratio of loaded weight to horsepower. >30:1 : -2 >20:1 : -1 10:1 to 20:1 : 0 <10:1 : +1 <5:1 : +2 These equipment bonuses are in addition to the size modifier, which should be figured in. Taking some planes from the [url=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey.htm]Air Force Museum[/url] page, I can do some quick numbers. [url=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey1.htm]Wright 1909 Military Flier[/url] [i](740 pounds unloaded, 36.5' span, 28.9' length, engine 30.6 hp, top speed 42 mph)[/i] hp 20, hardness 0, size G, init -4, maneuver (ratio 30+ if pilot weighs over 160 pounds!) -6, top speed 74 squares, 7 at chase speed. This plane is so light, and the engine so small, that its maneuverability can actually change based on the size of the pilot, from -6 to -5 if they are small. [url=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey5.htm]Sopwith F-1 Camel[/url] [i](1482 pounds unloaded, 28' span, 18.75' length, engine 130 hp, top speed 112 mpg)[/i] hp 26, hardness 3, size H, init -2, maneuver (ratio ~12) -2, top speed 197 squares, 20 at chase speed. [url=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey8a.htm]De Havilland DH-4[/url] [i](3,557 pounds loaded, so maybe 3000; 43.5' span, 30.5' length, engine 400 hp, max speed 128 mph)[/i] hp 32, hardness 3, size G, init -4, maneuver (ratio 8.89) -3, top speed 225 squares, 22 at chase speed. [url=http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/early_years/ey4c.htm]Fokker D. VII[/url] [i](1540 unloaded, 1939 lbs loaded; 29.25' span, 22.9' length, engine 185 hp, max speed 124 mph)[/i] hp 26, hardness 3, size H, init -2, maneuver (ratio 10.5) -2, top speed 218 squares, 22 at chase speed. [/QUOTE]

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