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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 5820989" data-attributes="member: 20805">If the issue at hand is the systems difficulty in having the PCs encounter low level bad guys and still have a challenge, then 4e actually goes a long way to making this easier. If you assume the monster stats are based on the threat the critter provides to the PCs at the level they are at... then it makes sense.Using XP values as a guide you can adjust the critters role to reflect the threat level it has compared to the PCs. A normal Orc at 1st level becomes a minion at 8th level. Expand on this with squads and platoons and you can have a squad of orcs challenging the PCs at 16th level or platoon at 24th level... which can go even farther and treat the platoon as a minion at 30th level.Which is what I am doing in my WoBS campaign. The PCs are facing entire armies of bad guys, and the stats provide a matching threat. Of the issue of the bigger fish still needs addressing, but I think it can be handled better by defining the goals of the various tiers so that DMs can be better prepared to bring in the special bad guys, like Dragons, in an appropriate fashion that doesn't break the feel of the game world.</blockquote>