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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rhenny" data-source="post: 5822557" data-attributes="member: 18333">I'm a fan of flatter math for a number of reasons.First, I think it makes the game a little more gritty.  I like the idea that creatures, no mater if they are lowly goblins or orcs, can have the potential to be dangerous to more PC levels.  This doesn't mean that the PCs will encounter the same creatures over and over again.  The DM will still be able to mix it up, but when needed, the goblins and orcs can come back into the picture.Secondly, it just makes sense for some stats.   For example AC.  Since D&D hit points are already an abstraction that represents more than just physical damage taken, AC should be grounded to something real like type of armor or hide plus dexterity bonus.  Heavily armored creatures with excellent dexterity should push AC 20-25, but that should be nearly the limit (with some magical exceptions).  It just makes more sense. In 4e, I hate how clumsy, leather hide creatures (level 10 or 12) have AC of 32.   Then, if AC is lower generally, there is no need to have "to hit" bonuses escalate at a fast rate.With lower AC, players will also feel as if they have more chances to get lucky against superior foes.  This will make the game more exciting, and make decision making more interesting.  If PCs encounter creatures that are more powerful than they are (especially if they have high AC and other defenses that are high)..there really isn't any choice.   If the PCs realize the danger, they should flee or try to avoid.   If there was a chink in the armor so to speak, the PCs will have to make more meaningful decisions.  Perhaps they can divide and conquer, or if there is only a small number of biggies, they can take a chance, and cut and run when they realize the encounter is going "sour."Thirdly, if the base or core is flatter, groups can always add bonuses "to hit" or to "AC" to flavor their own campaigns as they like.   If they want PCs to feel more heroic and deadly...apply +1 or +2 for training...or grant them magic to help them.  It is always easier to add than to take away.</blockquote>

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