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Message: <blockquote data-quote="azmodean" data-source="post: 2041871" data-attributes="member: 26590">Nothing about making them believe what you tell them, I would argue that believing something on demand that you have reason not to is not an action most creatures are capable of.  Plus, the intent seems to me to be control of the subject's body but not their mind.  Allowing brainwashing would make dominate intrude on other spells territory, like Psychic Chirurgery.Not that I'm saying this technique would not be beneficial, just not automatically sucessfull.  Here's my scenario:Spellcaster: "Do not resist the spell I am about to cast on you"Dominated creature: Saving throw with +2 bonus (If you want to be dominated, no save, but that's a weird creature)Spellcaster: casts dominate whateverDominated creature: If previous save was failed, creature does not resist spell, if previous save was sucessful, creature attempts to save.In other words, this technique would force the target to make two saving throws per casting of the dominate spell, which seems to me to be resonable.Notes: Creature and caster must have a common language          Creature must be intelligent enough to understand what a spell is.A much better strategy would be to have the target take drugs or poisons which lowered their mental defenses.  Then you could be pretty much assured of them failing subsequent saves, even if they somehow escaped your control.  Of course, this does leave them vunerable to other's compulsions...</blockquote>

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