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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 5744015" data-attributes="member: 40109">I disagree completely. The dominated person will attempt to carry out the command (go kill Mialee) to the exclusion of all other activities except those necessary for day-to-day survival. That means "no dilly-dallying." It doesn't mean "use your bare hands rather than take the time to draw your sword." If Mialee is hiding within an impenetrable fortress, warded by magical traps and surrounded by elite guards, it would be absurd for a dominated wizard to attempt to the carry out the command (go kill Mialee) with the dagger he happens to have on him at that moment. That plan has no chance of success, and interpreting the spell to require such "planning" makes a mockery of the phrase "will attempt to." Furthermore, if you interpret the rules so, dominators will just become much more explicit in their commands: "First, spend ten minutes thinking of the best possible way you can go kill Mialee. Then memorize whatever spells will be helpful to you in executing your plan to go kill Mialee. Do anything else necessary to be successful at killing Mialee. Then, go kill Mialee." That is the wrong standard by which to measure the spell, however. DC 15 should be trivial for those unusual individuals who have actually trained the ability to Sense Motive. The correct standard is found on Table 4-3: a DC 15 skill check is "tough" by ordinary human standards. Only exceptional individuals will succeed easily...as they're supposed to. That's what makes them exceptional. Right. He's an exceptional individual. That's why he's an adventuring PC, and not the village carpenter. No. It's still tough to detect that someone is dominated; it's just easier than detecting that someone is charmed, which is (let's consult Table 4-3 again) "formidable." If your friend Bob gets dominated, he doesn't turn into a virtual zombie; that would be more like a DC 5 (easy) or DC 0 (very easy) Sense Motive check. It's more like: "Gee, Bob sure is quiet lately. And he seems to be really focused on going and killing Mialee...almost too focused."</blockquote>

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