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<blockquote data-quote="Arrowhawk" data-source="post: 5744026" data-attributes="member: 6679551">You're making absurd assumptions in order to make a point.&nbsp; No where did I suggest a person with a sword would use their bare hands.&nbsp; I said they'd use whatever tools that had handy.&nbsp; &nbsp; If you said go kill Mailee with the dagger you have in your hand, that's exactly what the person would do.&nbsp; If you told them to use any means necessary, well who knows what that would entail.&nbsp; As I said above, you could order the person replenish their spells and whatever else you felt necessary.&nbsp; But if there is nothing in RAW that says a person will automatically be able to do the task.&nbsp; &nbsp;Not sure what you're trying to say here. &nbsp;If it's some task that the person can't easily accomplish, you may need to lay it out for them.&nbsp; Dominate Person is a blunt force object.&nbsp; Killing some high level wizard in a fortress which requires elaborate planning is probably not what DP was intended for.&nbsp; Such a task would undoubtedly be against someone's nature.&nbsp;&nbsp; Geas would be a better choice. &nbsp;&nbsp;You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but a 1st level commoner with no skill points in SM is going to notice it 1/4 of the time.&nbsp; Walk through a crowd of commoners and you're pretty much going to be noticed.&nbsp; Hang out with the family and they have a 45% chance of noticing something.&nbsp; Commpare that with the DC 25 of other enchantments and a commoner has ZERO CHANCE to notice something is amiss.&nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe we play different games.&nbsp; But I play the one where everyone in the party is an adventurer.&nbsp; Maybe you play with all commoners??&nbsp; I don't know.&nbsp;&nbsp;Dominate Person is detectable by a commoner.&nbsp; Any other enchantment is not.&nbsp; You're certainly entitled to your own perceptions on what WotC intends by fixing the DC's as they have.&nbsp;&nbsp; Since nobody in this thread has suggested the person gets turned into a zombie, I have no idea why you make this comparison.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arrowhawk, post: 5744026, member: 6679551"] You're making absurd assumptions in order to make a point. No where did I suggest a person with a sword would use their bare hands. I said they'd use whatever tools that had handy. If you said go kill Mailee with the dagger you have in your hand, that's exactly what the person would do. If you told them to use any means necessary, well who knows what that would entail. As I said above, you could order the person replenish their spells and whatever else you felt necessary. But if there is nothing in RAW that says a person will automatically be able to do the task. Not sure what you're trying to say here. If it's some task that the person can't easily accomplish, you may need to lay it out for them. Dominate Person is a blunt force object. Killing some high level wizard in a fortress which requires elaborate planning is probably not what DP was intended for. Such a task would undoubtedly be against someone's nature. Geas would be a better choice. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but a 1st level commoner with no skill points in SM is going to notice it 1/4 of the time. Walk through a crowd of commoners and you're pretty much going to be noticed. Hang out with the family and they have a 45% chance of noticing something. Commpare that with the DC 25 of other enchantments and a commoner has ZERO CHANCE to notice something is amiss. Maybe we play different games. But I play the one where everyone in the party is an adventurer. Maybe you play with all commoners?? I don't know. Dominate Person is detectable by a commoner. Any other enchantment is not. You're certainly entitled to your own perceptions on what WotC intends by fixing the DC's as they have. Since nobody in this thread has suggested the person gets turned into a zombie, I have no idea why you make this comparison. [/QUOTE]

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