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Dominated, are you still an Ally?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mephistopheles" data-source="post: 4801313" data-attributes="member: 4460"><p>Domination in 4E doesn't seem to be the same all encompassing mental control we've become used to in previous editions; it's more like a compulsion that the victim is aware of but powerless to resist when the dominator directs the victim to take an action.</p><p></p><p>The Dominated condition says that the victim is dazed and that the controller chooses the action the victim takes on his or her turn; it says nothing about what happens outside the victim's turn. The victim is still free to choose who he will treat as an ally or an enemy.</p><p></p><p>As for the issue of determination of ally or enemy status, which seems to come up fairly often, I think it helps to take a contextual approach. When you use a power that bestows benefits to allies you choose who you consider as your allies. It's then up to those creatures to choose whether they consider themselves your allies. If you both agree then they are a valid targets. You may opt not to consider a dominated friend as an ally for a power that will give him a +2 to attack rolls but later choose to consider him an ally for a power that grants an extra saving throw (used against the domination, most likely). For movement through squares you would choose whether or not you are letting your dominated friend through your square as an ally or not. A vampire will consider a dominated victim an enemy so that he can benefit from the combat advantage granted by the dazing component of the domination so that he can use Blood Drain on the victim.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The dominator could only make the cleric use at-will powers, so no.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mephistopheles, post: 4801313, member: 4460"] Domination in 4E doesn't seem to be the same all encompassing mental control we've become used to in previous editions; it's more like a compulsion that the victim is aware of but powerless to resist when the dominator directs the victim to take an action. The Dominated condition says that the victim is dazed and that the controller chooses the action the victim takes on his or her turn; it says nothing about what happens outside the victim's turn. The victim is still free to choose who he will treat as an ally or an enemy. As for the issue of determination of ally or enemy status, which seems to come up fairly often, I think it helps to take a contextual approach. When you use a power that bestows benefits to allies you choose who you consider as your allies. It's then up to those creatures to choose whether they consider themselves your allies. If you both agree then they are a valid targets. You may opt not to consider a dominated friend as an ally for a power that will give him a +2 to attack rolls but later choose to consider him an ally for a power that grants an extra saving throw (used against the domination, most likely). For movement through squares you would choose whether or not you are letting your dominated friend through your square as an ally or not. A vampire will consider a dominated victim an enemy so that he can benefit from the combat advantage granted by the dazing component of the domination so that he can use Blood Drain on the victim. The dominator could only make the cleric use at-will powers, so no. [/QUOTE]
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