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Domination and optional add-on effects -- who decides?
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<blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 5430460" data-attributes="member: 807"><p>I don't have the text for the feats/stances you listed handy, so I'm looking at this from a more general perspective.</p><p></p><p>Looking at a snip of text for the dominated condition...</p><p>[sblock]</p><p>You can’t take actions. Instead, the dominator chooses a single action for you to take on your turn: a standard, a move, a minor, or a free action. The only powers and other game features that the dominator can make you use are ones that can be used at will, such as at-will powers. For example,</p><p>anything that is limited to being used only once per encounter or once per day does not qualify.</p><p>[/sblock]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Therefore, (without trying to over think it) I would say that if the feat/rider effect can be done at will (or otherwise is a general modification to how your at-will works, such as via an already active stance), then the dominator can make the target use it.</p><p></p><p>Conversely, if any of those mentioned rider effects are once per encounter or something, then no (for instance, it can't make you add on your power strike ontop of your hit, for two reasons: one, because it's a free action which counts as a separate action and, two, because it's not at will and instead a limited resource).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course, what do I know? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And why are you trying to whack druids with your hammer at epic level? You have some serious 'splainin' to do! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fba827, post: 5430460, member: 807"] I don't have the text for the feats/stances you listed handy, so I'm looking at this from a more general perspective. Looking at a snip of text for the dominated condition... [sblock] You can’t take actions. Instead, the dominator chooses a single action for you to take on your turn: a standard, a move, a minor, or a free action. The only powers and other game features that the dominator can make you use are ones that can be used at will, such as at-will powers. For example, anything that is limited to being used only once per encounter or once per day does not qualify. [/sblock] Therefore, (without trying to over think it) I would say that if the feat/rider effect can be done at will (or otherwise is a general modification to how your at-will works, such as via an already active stance), then the dominator can make the target use it. Conversely, if any of those mentioned rider effects are once per encounter or something, then no (for instance, it can't make you add on your power strike ontop of your hit, for two reasons: one, because it's a free action which counts as a separate action and, two, because it's not at will and instead a limited resource). Of course, what do I know? :) And why are you trying to whack druids with your hammer at epic level? You have some serious 'splainin' to do! ;) [/QUOTE]
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