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<blockquote data-quote="Christopher Helton" data-source="post: 7712591" data-attributes="member: 6804772"><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH]83049[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>During the Nineties I played <em>a lot</em> of <strong>GURPS</strong>. For a long time, it was my go-to system for just about everything from horror to conspiracy to science fiction gaming. If there wasn't a <strong>GURPS 3E</strong> supplement for a genre or setting idea, I might not have played it. Yes, <strong>GURPS</strong> was everything that people who aren't fans of the system leveled at it: it required a lot of work, it could be complex and players could face paralysis when faced with <em>so many</em> options during character creation. Despite all of that, for me and the people that I gamed with at the time, it was a familiar and comfortable kind of complex. It suited us, and it suited my play style at the time.[PRBREAK][/PRBREAK]</p><p>I haven't actively played <strong>GURPS</strong> in a long while, nothing more than a one-shot or two here and there. I kept up with the <strong>GURPS 4E</strong> rules (in fact I was a playtester for <strong>GURPS Powers</strong> back when I was still playing the game actively). One of my favorite <strong>GURPS</strong>-related memories, outside of the gaming table, was meeting comic artist Gene Ha at a comic convention, around the time of the release of the core <strong>GURPS 4E</strong> books, and spending so much time excitedly talking about what we were hoping for with the new edition that we drove away another <strong>DC Comics</strong> artist at the same signing table with our "nerd talk."</p><p></p><p>Over the years, I have hung on to my <strong>GURPS 4E</strong> books on the off chance that I might get to play it regularly again. So far, that hasn't happened, but that is the "problem" with being in a world where there are more games than I can ever play.</p><p></p><p>A couple of months ago, I got a couple of the new <strong>GURPS</strong> books: the <strong>Discworld Roleplaying Game</strong> and <strong>GURPS Mars Attacks</strong>. Both utilize the fourth edition rules. <strong>Discworld</strong> is a standalone game with all of the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules, while <strong>GURPS Mars Attacks</strong> is a supplement that requires the core <strong>GURPS</strong> rules.</p><p>I'll start with <strong>GURPS Mars Attacks</strong>, because it is the smaller of the two books. <strong>Steve Jackson Games</strong> has made some fun games with the <strong>Mars Attacks</strong> franchise over the years. Their <strong>Mars Attacks Dice Game</strong> is one of my favorite party games, and I've been a fan of it since I demo'ed it at <strong>Gen Con</strong> a few years back. The point is that the company gets the <strong>Mars Attacks</strong> franchise, and, as the company who has brought use supplements like <strong>GURPS Atomic Horror</strong> in the past, they understand this genre as well as they do <strong>Mars Attacks</strong> itself.</p><p></p><p>There is a good deal of information on how to build <strong>GURPS</strong> characters to resist the Martian attacks in this world. There are a few different variants of the Martian invasion that can be used to trigger a <strong>GURPS Mars Attacks</strong> campaign. There isn't really anything <em>new</em> in the way of <strong>GURPS</strong> rules for the setting, but there isn't a lot of need for new rules (which I really appreciate). The book does do a good job of explaining how to make the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules specific to the setting. New weapons and examples of Martian technology are provided. Everything that you need for a <strong>Mars Attacks</strong> game is in this book.</p><p></p><p>My only real complaint about <strong>GURPS Mars Attacks</strong> is that it is much too small of a book. Weighing in at less than one hundred pages, they still pack a lot of information about running <strong>Mars Attacks</strong> games into the book. I would like to have seen the sample campaign frame get more development, maybe even have some variants that could be sprung into different styles of ongoing campaigns. There is a lot of different worlds that could have resulted from an attack from Mars, and I would have liked to have seen more of those. One of the strengths of <strong>GURPS</strong> is the versatility of the types of worlds that you can explore with the rules, and I would have liked to have seen more of that.</p><p></p><p>There have been enough <strong>Mars Attacks</strong> comics over the years to show that you can do ongoing stories in the setting, and I think that <strong>GURPS Mars Attacks</strong> could have really benefitted from that. Maybe we will see a <strong>GURPS Mars Attacks 2</strong> that will get to address this.</p><p></p><p>The art draws heavily upon the <strong>Topps</strong> trading cards, which is a good thing, but much like with the book itself, it is something that I would have liked to have seen more of. It would have been nice to have seen some full page pieces scattered throughout the book.</p><p></p><p>If you're a fan of the <strong>Mars Attacks</strong> movie, the trading cards, or any of the comics that have explored the worlds of the franchise, you will probably find something of interest in this book. It is a solidly designed game supplement that leaves you wanting more.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH]83050[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>The odds are that you probably already know about Terry Pratchett's <strong>Discworld</strong> setting. This is the third version of a <strong>Discworld</strong> game that the company has put out, all powered by <strong>Steve Jackson Games' GURPS</strong> rules. The first two used the third edition of the <strong>GURPS</strong> rules, while this current one uses the current fourth edition of the game.</p><p></p><p>Everything that you need to play in <strong>Discworld</strong> is included in the game. There is a detailed explanation of the setting and backgrounds of important characters and personalities in the stories. Pratchett collaborated on developing the setting material with the game's developer.</p><p>On the off chance that you aren't familiar with <strong>Discworld</strong>, it is a humorous fantasy setting that parodies many of the genre tropes of fantasy fiction that also revels in puns and slapstick humor. The game captures all of the humor of the setting, and if that is something that you wouldn't like in a game then the <strong>Discworld Roleplaying Game</strong> might not be for you.</p><p></p><p>My complaint for the <strong>Discworld Roleplaying Game</strong> is that it doesn't feel like it uses the fourth edition rules as fully as it could have. It feels like a book that was written for the third edition of <strong>GURPS</strong> that had a conversion done at the last minute. This isn't an indictment on the quality of the book, or the game's design, because this is still a robust game that groups can get a lot of play out of. It just feels like it could have been <em>more</em> if it had more fully embraced the fourth edition of <strong>GURPS</strong>. However, I think that if you are a fan of Pratchett's work and you are looking for a solid game that won't require your group to do a lot of the conversion work, the <strong>Discworld Roleplaying Game</strong> is what you are looking for.</p><p></p><p>One thing that the <strong>Discworld Roleplaying Game</strong> did for me is make me really want to see what the upcoming <strong>GURPS Dungeon Fantasy</strong> game is going to be like. I think that a solid set of fantasy rules, designed around the <strong>GURPS 4E</strong> engine will really cause a lot of excitement for the system. While the <strong>Discworld Roleplaying Game</strong> is a good game, the setting and the style wouldn't work well with generic fantasy, as well as some of the expanded rules like Techniques and Wildcard! skills.</p><p></p><p>It is good to see material for <strong>GURPS</strong> being developed in formats other than PDFs. Despite the fact that there has been a wealth of material developed for the fourth edition of <strong>GURPS</strong> over the years, most of it has been done in digital format, and sold directly by <strong>Steve Jackson Games</strong> from their website. Getting books like the <strong>Discworld Roleplaying Game</strong> and <strong>GURPS Mars Attacks</strong> into stores can do nothing but raise the game's profile out in the wide world where people are buying and playing their games. With any hope, these games will pave the way for a <strong>GURPS</strong> resurgence when <strong>GURPS Dungeon Fantasy</strong> finally comes out in stores. I know that while I am at <strong>Gen Con</strong> this summer I will be looking for information about when this game will be out in the world, where we can all play it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Christopher Helton, post: 7712591, member: 6804772"] [CENTER][ATTACH=CONFIG]83049[/ATTACH][/CENTER] During the Nineties I played [I]a lot[/I] of [B]GURPS[/B]. For a long time, it was my go-to system for just about everything from horror to conspiracy to science fiction gaming. If there wasn't a [B]GURPS 3E[/B] supplement for a genre or setting idea, I might not have played it. Yes, [B]GURPS[/B] was everything that people who aren't fans of the system leveled at it: it required a lot of work, it could be complex and players could face paralysis when faced with [I]so many[/I] options during character creation. Despite all of that, for me and the people that I gamed with at the time, it was a familiar and comfortable kind of complex. It suited us, and it suited my play style at the time.[PRBREAK][/PRBREAK] I haven't actively played [B]GURPS[/B] in a long while, nothing more than a one-shot or two here and there. I kept up with the [B]GURPS 4E[/B] rules (in fact I was a playtester for [B]GURPS Powers[/B] back when I was still playing the game actively). One of my favorite [B]GURPS[/B]-related memories, outside of the gaming table, was meeting comic artist Gene Ha at a comic convention, around the time of the release of the core [B]GURPS 4E[/B] books, and spending so much time excitedly talking about what we were hoping for with the new edition that we drove away another [B]DC Comics[/B] artist at the same signing table with our "nerd talk." Over the years, I have hung on to my [B]GURPS 4E[/B] books on the off chance that I might get to play it regularly again. So far, that hasn't happened, but that is the "problem" with being in a world where there are more games than I can ever play. A couple of months ago, I got a couple of the new [B]GURPS[/B] books: the [B]Discworld Roleplaying Game[/B] and [B]GURPS Mars Attacks[/B]. Both utilize the fourth edition rules. [B]Discworld[/B] is a standalone game with all of the [B]GURPS[/B] rules, while [B]GURPS Mars Attacks[/B] is a supplement that requires the core [B]GURPS[/B] rules. I'll start with [B]GURPS Mars Attacks[/B], because it is the smaller of the two books. [B]Steve Jackson Games[/B] has made some fun games with the [B]Mars Attacks[/B] franchise over the years. Their [B]Mars Attacks Dice Game[/B] is one of my favorite party games, and I've been a fan of it since I demo'ed it at [B]Gen Con[/B] a few years back. The point is that the company gets the [B]Mars Attacks[/B] franchise, and, as the company who has brought use supplements like [B]GURPS Atomic Horror[/B] in the past, they understand this genre as well as they do [B]Mars Attacks[/B] itself. There is a good deal of information on how to build [B]GURPS[/B] characters to resist the Martian attacks in this world. There are a few different variants of the Martian invasion that can be used to trigger a [B]GURPS Mars Attacks[/B] campaign. There isn't really anything [I]new[/I] in the way of [B]GURPS[/B] rules for the setting, but there isn't a lot of need for new rules (which I really appreciate). The book does do a good job of explaining how to make the [B]GURPS[/B] rules specific to the setting. New weapons and examples of Martian technology are provided. Everything that you need for a [B]Mars Attacks[/B] game is in this book. My only real complaint about [B]GURPS Mars Attacks[/B] is that it is much too small of a book. Weighing in at less than one hundred pages, they still pack a lot of information about running [B]Mars Attacks[/B] games into the book. I would like to have seen the sample campaign frame get more development, maybe even have some variants that could be sprung into different styles of ongoing campaigns. There is a lot of different worlds that could have resulted from an attack from Mars, and I would have liked to have seen more of those. One of the strengths of [B]GURPS[/B] is the versatility of the types of worlds that you can explore with the rules, and I would have liked to have seen more of that. There have been enough [B]Mars Attacks[/B] comics over the years to show that you can do ongoing stories in the setting, and I think that [B]GURPS Mars Attacks[/B] could have really benefitted from that. Maybe we will see a [B]GURPS Mars Attacks 2[/B] that will get to address this. The art draws heavily upon the [B]Topps[/B] trading cards, which is a good thing, but much like with the book itself, it is something that I would have liked to have seen more of. It would have been nice to have seen some full page pieces scattered throughout the book. If you're a fan of the [B]Mars Attacks[/B] movie, the trading cards, or any of the comics that have explored the worlds of the franchise, you will probably find something of interest in this book. It is a solidly designed game supplement that leaves you wanting more. [CENTER][ATTACH=CONFIG]83050[/ATTACH][/CENTER] The odds are that you probably already know about Terry Pratchett's [B]Discworld[/B] setting. This is the third version of a [B]Discworld[/B] game that the company has put out, all powered by [B]Steve Jackson Games' GURPS[/B] rules. The first two used the third edition of the [B]GURPS[/B] rules, while this current one uses the current fourth edition of the game. Everything that you need to play in [B]Discworld[/B] is included in the game. There is a detailed explanation of the setting and backgrounds of important characters and personalities in the stories. Pratchett collaborated on developing the setting material with the game's developer. On the off chance that you aren't familiar with [B]Discworld[/B], it is a humorous fantasy setting that parodies many of the genre tropes of fantasy fiction that also revels in puns and slapstick humor. The game captures all of the humor of the setting, and if that is something that you wouldn't like in a game then the [B]Discworld Roleplaying Game[/B] might not be for you. My complaint for the [B]Discworld Roleplaying Game[/B] is that it doesn't feel like it uses the fourth edition rules as fully as it could have. It feels like a book that was written for the third edition of [B]GURPS[/B] that had a conversion done at the last minute. This isn't an indictment on the quality of the book, or the game's design, because this is still a robust game that groups can get a lot of play out of. It just feels like it could have been [I]more[/I] if it had more fully embraced the fourth edition of [B]GURPS[/B]. However, I think that if you are a fan of Pratchett's work and you are looking for a solid game that won't require your group to do a lot of the conversion work, the [B]Discworld Roleplaying Game[/B] is what you are looking for. One thing that the [B]Discworld Roleplaying Game[/B] did for me is make me really want to see what the upcoming [B]GURPS Dungeon Fantasy[/B] game is going to be like. I think that a solid set of fantasy rules, designed around the [B]GURPS 4E[/B] engine will really cause a lot of excitement for the system. While the [B]Discworld Roleplaying Game[/B] is a good game, the setting and the style wouldn't work well with generic fantasy, as well as some of the expanded rules like Techniques and Wildcard! skills. It is good to see material for [B]GURPS[/B] being developed in formats other than PDFs. Despite the fact that there has been a wealth of material developed for the fourth edition of [B]GURPS[/B] over the years, most of it has been done in digital format, and sold directly by [B]Steve Jackson Games[/B] from their website. Getting books like the [B]Discworld Roleplaying Game[/B] and [B]GURPS Mars Attacks[/B] into stores can do nothing but raise the game's profile out in the wide world where people are buying and playing their games. With any hope, these games will pave the way for a [B]GURPS[/B] resurgence when [B]GURPS Dungeon Fantasy[/B] finally comes out in stores. I know that while I am at [B]Gen Con[/B] this summer I will be looking for information about when this game will be out in the world, where we can all play it. [/QUOTE]
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