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<blockquote data-quote="TheEvil" data-source="post: 2176072" data-attributes="member: 23261">I do think trust is the primary issue with most of the PVP and PVGM issues.&nbsp; The character of a trusted friend could steal items out from under the party nose and I wouldn't be overly bothered.&nbsp; If the character of a player I didn't particularly like or trust did the same thing, my blood pressure would rise.&nbsp; For a more extreme example, if said friend's PC hit on my wife's character, no problem.&nbsp; If the guy who hit on my wife had his PC do so....As far as the GM goes, without the trust of the players, there is nothing.&nbsp; The best example from my experience invovled a GM who was a good storyteller, had interesting NPCs and was good at ad hoc reactions to unexpected PC behavior.&nbsp; He was not well versed in the rules.&nbsp; On the very first session, upon discovering that you could draw a weapon as part of a move, he house ruled that you couldn't because it made the Quickdraw feat worthless.&nbsp; His wife's PC had the Quickdraw feat.&nbsp; She was the only one.&nbsp; I almost decided to quick after that night, but decided to give him another shot.&nbsp; It did make it hard to take him as even handed, and my wife had a particularly hard time trusting his motivations.&nbsp; In the end, I do think he was not being even handed.&nbsp; When my wife's PC was transformed into a lesser vampire spawn, he levied a -4 Dex penalty on her character.&nbsp; This was shortly after his wife commented on how her character with Improved Initiative and 10 dex sometimes had a lower initiative then my wife's 18 dex character.The point of all this long winded rambling is that players need to base their actions on the level of relationship they have with the other players. GMs need to make sure that the things that happen in the game are within the bounds of the player's trust in him/her.&nbsp; Also, it is probably worthwhile to talk with the players about trusting your calls and that things do actually make sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheEvil, post: 2176072, member: 23261"] I do think trust is the primary issue with most of the PVP and PVGM issues. The character of a trusted friend could steal items out from under the party nose and I wouldn't be overly bothered. If the character of a player I didn't particularly like or trust did the same thing, my blood pressure would rise. For a more extreme example, if said friend's PC hit on my wife's character, no problem. If the guy who hit on my wife had his PC do so.... As far as the GM goes, without the trust of the players, there is nothing. The best example from my experience invovled a GM who was a good storyteller, had interesting NPCs and was good at ad hoc reactions to unexpected PC behavior. He was not well versed in the rules. On the very first session, upon discovering that you could draw a weapon as part of a move, he house ruled that you couldn't because it made the Quickdraw feat worthless. His wife's PC had the Quickdraw feat. She was the only one. I almost decided to quick after that night, but decided to give him another shot. It did make it hard to take him as even handed, and my wife had a particularly hard time trusting his motivations. In the end, I do think he was not being even handed. When my wife's PC was transformed into a lesser vampire spawn, he levied a -4 Dex penalty on her character. This was shortly after his wife commented on how her character with Improved Initiative and 10 dex sometimes had a lower initiative then my wife's 18 dex character. The point of all this long winded rambling is that players need to base their actions on the level of relationship they have with the other players. GMs need to make sure that the things that happen in the game are within the bounds of the player's trust in him/her. Also, it is probably worthwhile to talk with the players about trusting your calls and that things do actually make sense. [/QUOTE]

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