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Don't play "stupid" characters. It is ableist.
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<blockquote data-quote="cowpie" data-source="post: 8465805" data-attributes="member: 98840"><p>Well, I wouldn't call it a "critique" exactly -- the OP makes a lot of assertions and demands, and is signalling they they support a popular political position in which it's considered virtuous to scold people for being "ableist".</p><p></p><p>To critique the critique, one could just as easily argue that it's also harmful to scold people for being ableist. For example, someone on the autism spectrum might use the term "stupid" because they tend to process things literally, and are unable to police their own language all the time (it's literally too hard for them). So isn't it discriminatory to scold them for being "ableist" when in fact, they can't help but use less-delicate language? You've be punishing a neurodivergent person, based on the assumption that they don't care about neurodivergent people, which is obviously wrong.</p><p></p><p>To make another point, if everyone at the table is an adult, is making collective improvised fiction, and no one has any ill-intent, agrees to portraying silly caricatures, everyone knows not to believe the characters have any reference to people in real life, everyone understands what a harmful stereotypes are and separates them from reality, and the game occurs in the privacy of your own home, how is this actually going to hurt anyone?</p><p></p><p>Everyone here is saying "it might hurt someone". How will it actually hurt someone? Getting hit by a truck might hurt someone -- does that mean we should ban driving trucks?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cowpie, post: 8465805, member: 98840"] Well, I wouldn't call it a "critique" exactly -- the OP makes a lot of assertions and demands, and is signalling they they support a popular political position in which it's considered virtuous to scold people for being "ableist". To critique the critique, one could just as easily argue that it's also harmful to scold people for being ableist. For example, someone on the autism spectrum might use the term "stupid" because they tend to process things literally, and are unable to police their own language all the time (it's literally too hard for them). So isn't it discriminatory to scold them for being "ableist" when in fact, they can't help but use less-delicate language? You've be punishing a neurodivergent person, based on the assumption that they don't care about neurodivergent people, which is obviously wrong. To make another point, if everyone at the table is an adult, is making collective improvised fiction, and no one has any ill-intent, agrees to portraying silly caricatures, everyone knows not to believe the characters have any reference to people in real life, everyone understands what a harmful stereotypes are and separates them from reality, and the game occurs in the privacy of your own home, how is this actually going to hurt anyone? Everyone here is saying "it might hurt someone". How will it actually hurt someone? Getting hit by a truck might hurt someone -- does that mean we should ban driving trucks? [/QUOTE]
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