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<blockquote data-quote="Hex08" data-source="post: 8466317" data-attributes="member: 7029595">Well, I think the premise of the OP is wrong and flawed but I am can't decide if it's serious or just trolling.It seems the basic premise is &quot;The idea of 'stupid' and 'smart' is rooted in ableism.&quot; but there is nothing to support that position in the original post. Without an argument or evidence to support the position I’m inclined to think the OP is just stating a personal opinion as fact or trying to start an argument (and therefore trolling). All we are given are examples of why some people may sometimes behave stupidly.The OP then goes on to state &quot;Don't use stats as an excuse&quot; but since D&amp;D (and other RPGs) is a game where a character's physical and mental characteristics are measured on a numerical scale that seems to be inherently impossible. If a character has a 5 Intelligence it is, according to the rules of the game, of low intelligence and if it has a 16 then it is of high intelligence. This is not “an excuse”, it is playing the game using the provided ruleset. How a player chooses to roleplay that is a different discussion and one that does come up in later posts.Yes, everyone does stupid things but there are people out there who have higher or lower general intelligence than others. Ignoring or shading over this for reasons of cultural or social equality is a mistake, however well intentioned. Before making such judgments it is important to educate yourself on topics such as G Theory and other theories on general intelligence and their criticisms (and by that I mean more than just reading a Wikipedia article). These topics are far more nuanced than we often realize, and may sometimes conflict with our beliefs regarding social equality.Also, drawing direct correlations between D&amp;Ds stats and their real life equivalents is a rabbit hole you will never escape from.&nbsp; <h3></h3></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hex08, post: 8466317, member: 7029595"] Well, I think the premise of the OP is wrong and flawed but I am can't decide if it's serious or just trolling. It seems the basic premise is "The idea of 'stupid' and 'smart' is rooted in ableism." but there is nothing to support that position in the original post. Without an argument or evidence to support the position I’m inclined to think the OP is just stating a personal opinion as fact or trying to start an argument (and therefore trolling). All we are given are examples of why some people may sometimes behave stupidly. The OP then goes on to state "Don't use stats as an excuse" but since D&D (and other RPGs) is a game where a character's physical and mental characteristics are measured on a numerical scale that seems to be inherently impossible. If a character has a 5 Intelligence it is, according to the rules of the game, of low intelligence and if it has a 16 then it is of high intelligence. This is not “an excuse”, it is playing the game using the provided ruleset. How a player chooses to roleplay that is a different discussion and one that does come up in later posts. Yes, everyone does stupid things but there are people out there who have higher or lower general intelligence than others. Ignoring or shading over this for reasons of cultural or social equality is a mistake, however well intentioned. Before making such judgments it is important to educate yourself on topics such as G Theory and other theories on general intelligence and their criticisms (and by that I mean more than just reading a Wikipedia article). These topics are far more nuanced than we often realize, and may sometimes conflict with our beliefs regarding social equality. Also, drawing direct correlations between D&Ds stats and their real life equivalents is a rabbit hole you will never escape from. [HEADING=2][/HEADING] [/QUOTE]

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