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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8470672" data-attributes="member: 2209">Because engaging mentally and socially effectively in the game is part of the fun of the game for those who enjoy doing so. This would hold true whether playing a smart bard build or a tank warrior build.It is true that completely abstracted things are based on mechanics. But I would expect in a LARP that a player using their actual physical abilities in swordfighting would be part of the fun for many. Talking in character and coming up with ideas can be similar.As a DM I am happy with more cool social interaction and critical thinking engagement on the parts of all of my players, I don't want those activities limited to specific character builds.It does not enhance my aesthetic enjoyment to see roleplay characterization limited to match stats on a sheet to accomodate a class build. I have no preference for the cool RDJ Sherlock roleplay portrayal to be limited to an int or cha build mechanical character concept. I want a player to have fun with both their roleplay concept and for their characters to be roughly equal mechanically.I do not see the mental and social engagement parts as part of the character power balance, I see them as something for anybody to engage in and the combat power balance to be a separate pool entirely.If I thought of combat effectiveness, coming up with ideas, and talking as a zero sum pool I could conceive of thinking of an effective character in all three as cheating compared to others who are not, but I don't view D&amp;D that way. Everybody fights on an even basis, everyone should be on an even basis and able to participate if they want in the other arenas too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8470672, member: 2209"] Because engaging mentally and socially effectively in the game is part of the fun of the game for those who enjoy doing so. This would hold true whether playing a smart bard build or a tank warrior build. It is true that completely abstracted things are based on mechanics. But I would expect in a LARP that a player using their actual physical abilities in swordfighting would be part of the fun for many. Talking in character and coming up with ideas can be similar. As a DM I am happy with more cool social interaction and critical thinking engagement on the parts of all of my players, I don't want those activities limited to specific character builds. It does not enhance my aesthetic enjoyment to see roleplay characterization limited to match stats on a sheet to accomodate a class build. I have no preference for the cool RDJ Sherlock roleplay portrayal to be limited to an int or cha build mechanical character concept. I want a player to have fun with both their roleplay concept and for their characters to be roughly equal mechanically. I do not see the mental and social engagement parts as part of the character power balance, I see them as something for anybody to engage in and the combat power balance to be a separate pool entirely. If I thought of combat effectiveness, coming up with ideas, and talking as a zero sum pool I could conceive of thinking of an effective character in all three as cheating compared to others who are not, but I don't view D&D that way. Everybody fights on an even basis, everyone should be on an even basis and able to participate if they want in the other arenas too. [/QUOTE]

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