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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9238723" data-attributes="member: 7006">While I acknowledge and appreciate the sentiment... I'm still under the belief that trying to use the term '5E' as the designator for all non-WotC products that use the 5E game engine is only going to cause confusion and ultimately not accomplish the thing it wants to as well as it could.Like it or not... '5E' and WotC-owned Dungeons &amp; Dragons are linked irrevocably.&nbsp; And any attempts at speaking on '5E' products is going to get a large swathe of the people reading or hearing it to assume that WotC-owned Dungeons &amp; Dragons is a part of that conversation.&nbsp; (General) you won't be able to say the former without the latter automatically being invoked.&nbsp; &quot;This is a 5E product&quot; will be assumed to be a product for Dungeons &amp; Dragons 5th Edition (2104 or 2024) and the person has to be prepared to go through the effort of explaining &quot;No, no!&nbsp; Not that!&nbsp; It's really....&quot; Now maybe that doesn't really matter to people at the end of the day?&nbsp; If so, then just keep doing what you're doing.&nbsp; But I do think it is telling that we actually have someone feeling the need to make a thread trying to tell folks that 5E and D&amp;D are different... which insinuates quite easily that most people don't really think they are.So I say don't try and swim against the current.&nbsp; Come up with a new term other than '5E' to use for all non-WotC-owned 5E game engine products, so there can be a natural distinction and break between them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9238723, member: 7006"] While I acknowledge and appreciate the sentiment... I'm still under the belief that trying to use the term '5E' as the designator for all non-WotC products that use the 5E game engine is only going to cause confusion and ultimately not accomplish the thing it wants to as well as it could. Like it or not... '5E' and WotC-owned Dungeons & Dragons are linked irrevocably. And any attempts at speaking on '5E' products is going to get a large swathe of the people reading or hearing it to assume that WotC-owned Dungeons & Dragons is a part of that conversation. (General) you won't be able to say the former without the latter automatically being invoked. "This is a 5E product" will be assumed to be a product for Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition (2104 or 2024) and the person has to be prepared to go through the effort of explaining "No, no! Not that! It's really...." Now maybe that doesn't really matter to people at the end of the day? If so, then just keep doing what you're doing. But I do think it is telling that we actually have someone feeling the need to make a thread trying to tell folks that 5E and D&D are different... which insinuates quite easily that most people don't really think they are. So I say don't try and swim against the current. Come up with a new term other than '5E' to use for all non-WotC-owned 5E game engine products, so there can be a natural distinction and break between them. [/QUOTE]

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