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<blockquote data-quote="Ulorian - Agent of Chaos" data-source="post: 9241513" data-attributes="member: 16668"><p>I thought I was not interested in rehashing year old nonsense either, but here we are!</p><p></p><p>As do I.</p><p></p><p>IANAL, so have no idea idea if it can be legally revoked. Right off the bat not impressed with this 'laughed out of the room' comment. Are you a lawyer? Is there something you know that I don't?</p><p></p><p>That I would agree with. I would add though that they were coming from the position of being the injured party. They bought a company, then had a subsidiary push out an agreement i.e. the OGL that they perceived as hurting them. In my opinion (and I think yours), it helped them. But that aside, they did not pay attention to what was happening within their own enterprise, and poof! here is this thing that gave away their IP (again, I think this was a good thing in the long run, but please look at it from the perspective of the folks who actually owned the property!).</p><p></p><p>That being said, they didn't approach this in a conciliatory manner. Which does aggravate me, as a person, but I understand it. In these sorts of discussions, you are often dropped into a pool of sharks. You have to approach teeth first, or you lose some important meat. I would ask you to remember the context of these corporate discussions.</p><p></p><p>The initial deal was pretty awful. In other circumstances (see above), I would be pretty hard on an individual human being who did that. I would not expect anyone to accept that deal. I would, however, expect them to counter.</p><p></p><p>Maybe. I would hope that 3rd party companies would have enough business sense and fortitude to weather a request like that on their own, without the 'help' of the general public. If they would have folded otherwise, I would suggest that they didn't have enough knowledge to run a business to stay afloat regardless.</p><p></p><p>I hope what I've said puts that in a different light for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ulorian - Agent of Chaos, post: 9241513, member: 16668"] I thought I was not interested in rehashing year old nonsense either, but here we are! As do I. IANAL, so have no idea idea if it can be legally revoked. Right off the bat not impressed with this 'laughed out of the room' comment. Are you a lawyer? Is there something you know that I don't? That I would agree with. I would add though that they were coming from the position of being the injured party. They bought a company, then had a subsidiary push out an agreement i.e. the OGL that they perceived as hurting them. In my opinion (and I think yours), it helped them. But that aside, they did not pay attention to what was happening within their own enterprise, and poof! here is this thing that gave away their IP (again, I think this was a good thing in the long run, but please look at it from the perspective of the folks who actually owned the property!). That being said, they didn't approach this in a conciliatory manner. Which does aggravate me, as a person, but I understand it. In these sorts of discussions, you are often dropped into a pool of sharks. You have to approach teeth first, or you lose some important meat. I would ask you to remember the context of these corporate discussions. The initial deal was pretty awful. In other circumstances (see above), I would be pretty hard on an individual human being who did that. I would not expect anyone to accept that deal. I would, however, expect them to counter. Maybe. I would hope that 3rd party companies would have enough business sense and fortitude to weather a request like that on their own, without the 'help' of the general public. If they would have folded otherwise, I would suggest that they didn't have enough knowledge to run a business to stay afloat regardless. I hope what I've said puts that in a different light for you. [/QUOTE]
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