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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9241639" data-attributes="member: 7034611"><p>lawyers landed on both sides of this, I just never felt that the ones arguing for WotC’s case were all that convincing / knew what they were talking about / made some factual errors. Law is a big field…</p><p></p><p>What I do know is that the GPL has the exact same wording and that WotC was very clear that there was no way to revoke it for a long time, until they no longer believed it was convenient and were looking for an excuse to get rid of it. Also that courts frequently follow the stated intent when in doubt, and that was clear and available here, and did not support WotC’s case.</p><p></p><p>I doubt they stood a chance, but courts do not get it right every time either, so there is always some risk. Add to this that WotC can outspend you and basically attempt to bankrupt you with the trial, and there is some doubt that you would prevail, even if you were legally absolutely in the right. I saw that as their only realistic chance, bully / scare everyone so they do not even go to trial, and drag out the ones that do, until they can no longer afford to fight on</p><p></p><p></p><p>not sure, for one, see 1), for another Kyle later claimed it was meant to prevent Disney or Facebook to use it to create their own spinoff. In that case it never was about being an injured party the 3pps took advantage of</p><p></p><p></p><p>with the power dynamics as they were, I do not expect a decent deal was to be had. Add to this that I believe they were trying to bully their way out of a legally binding contract, and I am not impressed with anything they did until they suddenly folded and released the SRD under CC</p><p></p><p></p><p>you cannot weather something that skims more off the top than there is top, and you cannot live in uncertainty for a year or so either, until things get hashed out in negotiations, not knowing whether anything you are working on can be sold at the end of the day.</p><p></p><p></p><p>not really, none of this is new, I considered all of this a year ago already and ended up at the position I am holding today. They had no case, they tried intimidation as the only means available to them, and all of that due to some misguided paranoia</p><p></p><p>I doubt you learned anything new / changed your mind either <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9241639, member: 7034611"] lawyers landed on both sides of this, I just never felt that the ones arguing for WotC’s case were all that convincing / knew what they were talking about / made some factual errors. Law is a big field… What I do know is that the GPL has the exact same wording and that WotC was very clear that there was no way to revoke it for a long time, until they no longer believed it was convenient and were looking for an excuse to get rid of it. Also that courts frequently follow the stated intent when in doubt, and that was clear and available here, and did not support WotC’s case. I doubt they stood a chance, but courts do not get it right every time either, so there is always some risk. Add to this that WotC can outspend you and basically attempt to bankrupt you with the trial, and there is some doubt that you would prevail, even if you were legally absolutely in the right. I saw that as their only realistic chance, bully / scare everyone so they do not even go to trial, and drag out the ones that do, until they can no longer afford to fight on not sure, for one, see 1), for another Kyle later claimed it was meant to prevent Disney or Facebook to use it to create their own spinoff. In that case it never was about being an injured party the 3pps took advantage of with the power dynamics as they were, I do not expect a decent deal was to be had. Add to this that I believe they were trying to bully their way out of a legally binding contract, and I am not impressed with anything they did until they suddenly folded and released the SRD under CC you cannot weather something that skims more off the top than there is top, and you cannot live in uncertainty for a year or so either, until things get hashed out in negotiations, not knowing whether anything you are working on can be sold at the end of the day. not really, none of this is new, I considered all of this a year ago already and ended up at the position I am holding today. They had no case, they tried intimidation as the only means available to them, and all of that due to some misguided paranoia I doubt you learned anything new / changed your mind either ;) [/QUOTE]
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