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<blockquote data-quote="Ulorian - Agent of Chaos" data-source="post: 9244163" data-attributes="member: 16668"><p>I did say I was done with these wall of text, tit for tat sort of responses, but I do appreciate that you're making an effort to be neutral about this topic. Although reading this latest post of yours, I can see you're still being emotionally clouded by your preconceptions to some degree, but I do see the effort. So thanks for that.</p><p></p><p>Excellent!</p><p></p><p>Loaded language... that's the first example of a preconception colouring your view of what I said in my opinion. Honestly, I think you should take a step back and stop assuming that I am saying something that is some sort of threat to mankind.</p><p></p><p>What I said was:</p><p></p><p>If you are running a business, and employee others, thereby being responsible for their livelihoods, being proactive about protecting them from threats to your business makes you a good person. If, on the other hand, you just ride along and bad things happen because there are:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">bad things in the world</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">there are people who incidentally have influence on your business who:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">maliciously make a decision to influence your business negatively</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">who make a decision to enhance their business, but did not consider your business in that decision<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">maliciously</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">not maliciously</li> </ol></li> </ol></li> </ol><p>You are, maybe not a bad person, but a morally sloppy and irresponsible person. You did not mean to be bad, but you were lazy. You did not put in effort to protect your employees from outside harms. Those harms were not your employees' fault. Or your fault. Or perhaps the outside party's fault (although they may have been).</p><p></p><p>Where the fault is yours, as the owner of a business, is in failing to protect your employees from problems you should be solving.</p><p></p><p>This statement tells me you are completely missing the point of what I am saying. See my point above.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Please don't be hurt because you think I 'lectured you'. We're adults. I am not trying to hurt your feelings. We're having a discussion. I am not trying to fight with anyone, or win internet points, or whatever you think it is I am trying to do.</p><p></p><p>Also, I did not say anything at all about letting the other party in a contract getting away with reneging on that contract. Again, are you sure you're not letting an emotional connection to this topic distort what I am actually saying?</p><p></p><p>Lord of the Flies... it seems like maybe you do have a problem with the hyperbole! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> It was a bit hyperbolic, so that's fine.</p><p></p><p>What I'm expressing here is my frustration with the tribalism I'm seeing in responses to my posts.</p><p></p><p>I was up early, so why not answer your questions! Looking forward to your responses to my responses.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ulorian - Agent of Chaos, post: 9244163, member: 16668"] I did say I was done with these wall of text, tit for tat sort of responses, but I do appreciate that you're making an effort to be neutral about this topic. Although reading this latest post of yours, I can see you're still being emotionally clouded by your preconceptions to some degree, but I do see the effort. So thanks for that. Excellent! Loaded language... that's the first example of a preconception colouring your view of what I said in my opinion. Honestly, I think you should take a step back and stop assuming that I am saying something that is some sort of threat to mankind. What I said was: If you are running a business, and employee others, thereby being responsible for their livelihoods, being proactive about protecting them from threats to your business makes you a good person. If, on the other hand, you just ride along and bad things happen because there are: [LIST=1] [*]bad things in the world [*]there are people who incidentally have influence on your business who: [LIST=1] [*]maliciously make a decision to influence your business negatively [*]who make a decision to enhance their business, but did not consider your business in that decision [LIST=1] [*]maliciously [*]not maliciously [/LIST] [/LIST] [/LIST] You are, maybe not a bad person, but a morally sloppy and irresponsible person. You did not mean to be bad, but you were lazy. You did not put in effort to protect your employees from outside harms. Those harms were not your employees' fault. Or your fault. Or perhaps the outside party's fault (although they may have been). Where the fault is yours, as the owner of a business, is in failing to protect your employees from problems you should be solving. This statement tells me you are completely missing the point of what I am saying. See my point above. Please don't be hurt because you think I 'lectured you'. We're adults. I am not trying to hurt your feelings. We're having a discussion. I am not trying to fight with anyone, or win internet points, or whatever you think it is I am trying to do. Also, I did not say anything at all about letting the other party in a contract getting away with reneging on that contract. Again, are you sure you're not letting an emotional connection to this topic distort what I am actually saying? Lord of the Flies... it seems like maybe you do have a problem with the hyperbole! :) It was a bit hyperbolic, so that's fine. What I'm expressing here is my frustration with the tribalism I'm seeing in responses to my posts. I was up early, so why not answer your questions! Looking forward to your responses to my responses. [/QUOTE]
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