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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9245215" data-attributes="member: 7034611">as far as I am concerned you picked something impossible, to excuse WotC’s behaviorClaiming they just were not aware until recently ignores that they dropped the OGL with 4e (without revoking it, since they cannot…) and brought it back with 5e. So this was not just a case of belatedly becoming aware of its existence in 2021I agree with this. I feel like you believe that everyone who does not share your opinion has not done so however.I have looked at this, and drawn my conclusions from what I’ve learned about it.that cuts both ways, I am not the one excusing WotC’s behavior with a narrative that does not hold up to realityDo I consider WotC evil? No. They were paranoid, did not consider the impact of their actions on 3pps, and attempted to revoke a perpetual license through bullying because they had no realistic legal means to do so, but there were also different camps within WotC and they entered negotiations when the 3pps told them just how godawful a new license they had concocted.Still, I believe it would have wiped out a lot of 3pps, unless this had gone to court (and probably even then, because many cannot afford to wait that long).Even with better terms, the trust would have been destroyed, and why would I enter a new agreement with WotC that they could again revoke at any time for any irrational reason, just because they are too big for me to fight back.So they get some credit for releasing the SRD under CC, but as far as I am concerned I am keeping an eye on them and want to see a new CC SRD before I believe that they learned from this</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9245215, member: 7034611"] as far as I am concerned you picked something impossible, to excuse WotC’s behavior Claiming they just were not aware until recently ignores that they dropped the OGL with 4e (without revoking it, since they cannot…) and brought it back with 5e. So this was not just a case of belatedly becoming aware of its existence in 2021 I agree with this. I feel like you believe that everyone who does not share your opinion has not done so however. I have looked at this, and drawn my conclusions from what I’ve learned about it. that cuts both ways, I am not the one excusing WotC’s behavior with a narrative that does not hold up to reality Do I consider WotC evil? No. They were paranoid, did not consider the impact of their actions on 3pps, and attempted to revoke a perpetual license through bullying because they had no realistic legal means to do so, but there were also different camps within WotC and they entered negotiations when the 3pps told them just how godawful a new license they had concocted. Still, I believe it would have wiped out a lot of 3pps, unless this had gone to court (and probably even then, because many cannot afford to wait that long). Even with better terms, the trust would have been destroyed, and why would I enter a new agreement with WotC that they could again revoke at any time for any irrational reason, just because they are too big for me to fight back. So they get some credit for releasing the SRD under CC, but as far as I am concerned I am keeping an eye on them and want to see a new CC SRD before I believe that they learned from this [/QUOTE]

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