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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8726790" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Methinks TheSword doth protest too much.</p><p></p><p>I think they wanted Dark Sun for the aesthetics; dying desert planet is a trope of Sci Fi and I think they thought it would be a clever nod to old players to use a classic setting. They couldn't get it to work. We don't know why exactly, but it didn't score well with playtesters apparently and they salvaged what they could into Doomspace. </p><p></p><p>Why didn't it work? We don't exactly know and unless someone is/will violate NDA, we won't ever know. Maybe Dark Sun brought too much baggage in the form of changes and legacy rules to fit in a product not intended for it. (For example, would offworlder PC casters be able to defile or preserve? That's a core DS element that touches all casters and you can't address it in a Spelljammer module. Either the answer is no and you make large repressions to future lore or yes and you design a new rule system only used for one part of a module for a completely different setting).</p><p></p><p>My guess is that they probably got pushback for DS lite not feeling like Athas and decided to redo it as an Athas-like setting without presumptions to get the vibe without having to explain how it all fits together.</p><p></p><p>Now of course if your agenda is to believe WotC is firing its fans, you'll find conspiracy around every corner. But I think the change was made so as not to sabotage a future DS setting. It was an idea they tried and didn't work and we'd be none the wiser if not for the prototype map that got published by accident. Heck, we'd probably be discussing the opposite and asking why they created a new apocalyptic setting when Athas is right there...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 8726790, member: 7635"] Methinks TheSword doth protest too much. I think they wanted Dark Sun for the aesthetics; dying desert planet is a trope of Sci Fi and I think they thought it would be a clever nod to old players to use a classic setting. They couldn't get it to work. We don't know why exactly, but it didn't score well with playtesters apparently and they salvaged what they could into Doomspace. Why didn't it work? We don't exactly know and unless someone is/will violate NDA, we won't ever know. Maybe Dark Sun brought too much baggage in the form of changes and legacy rules to fit in a product not intended for it. (For example, would offworlder PC casters be able to defile or preserve? That's a core DS element that touches all casters and you can't address it in a Spelljammer module. Either the answer is no and you make large repressions to future lore or yes and you design a new rule system only used for one part of a module for a completely different setting). My guess is that they probably got pushback for DS lite not feeling like Athas and decided to redo it as an Athas-like setting without presumptions to get the vibe without having to explain how it all fits together. Now of course if your agenda is to believe WotC is firing its fans, you'll find conspiracy around every corner. But I think the change was made so as not to sabotage a future DS setting. It was an idea they tried and didn't work and we'd be none the wiser if not for the prototype map that got published by accident. Heck, we'd probably be discussing the opposite and asking why they created a new apocalyptic setting when Athas is right there... [/QUOTE]
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