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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8731336" data-attributes="member: 23751">What gods?&nbsp; What primordials?&nbsp; There are countless of each across the cosmos.Sure.&nbsp; And Blood War. And the Orcgate War. And, and, and.&nbsp; Which of the many, many wars was this?&nbsp; Who says that there haven't been 12 different. Dawn Wars.Pure assumption.&nbsp; It could have been one of countless wars of gods vs. primordials.And? That doesn't make them Forgotten Realms gods.&nbsp; FR gods are setting specific.&nbsp; Multi-setting gods are not a part of the FR.&nbsp; FR is a part of them.4e is not 5e.Sure, which means that it probably happened.&nbsp; Or maybe 10 of them happened. The 4e Dawn War involved the Points of Light setting.&nbsp; Nothing I read about it involves any other settings.&nbsp; Perhaps every setting had its own Dawn War and the Athasian gods lost theirs to unknown primordialsNo. Nothing in Fizban's says all the gods took part.&nbsp; Hell, nothing in Fizban's says the Dawn War ever happened.&nbsp; What Fizbans' says is...&quot;In the Dawn War pantheon described in the Dungeon Masters Guide Bahamut is revered as a god of justice and nobility, favored by palainds, while Tiamat is known as a god of greed, wealth and vengeance.&quot;&nbsp; That doesn't say the Dawn War happened. It's just a reference to the Dawn War pantheon mentioned in the DMG, which says explicitly that it's a 4e pantheon.&nbsp; 4e. Not 5e.You are assuming that the Dawn War happened, despite Fizban's not saying or implying that it did.&nbsp; And you are assuming that if it did, the 5e list of gods is the same as 4e, which isn't said anywhere in 5e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8731336, member: 23751"] What gods? What primordials? There are countless of each across the cosmos. Sure. And Blood War. And the Orcgate War. And, and, and. Which of the many, many wars was this? Who says that there haven't been 12 different. Dawn Wars. Pure assumption. It could have been one of countless wars of gods vs. primordials. And? That doesn't make them Forgotten Realms gods. FR gods are setting specific. Multi-setting gods are not a part of the FR. FR is a part of them. 4e is not 5e. Sure, which means that it probably happened. Or maybe 10 of them happened. The 4e Dawn War involved the Points of Light setting. Nothing I read about it involves any other settings. Perhaps every setting had its own Dawn War and the Athasian gods lost theirs to unknown primordials No. Nothing in Fizban's says all the gods took part. Hell, nothing in Fizban's says the Dawn War ever happened. What Fizbans' says is... "In the Dawn War pantheon described in the Dungeon Masters Guide Bahamut is revered as a god of justice and nobility, favored by palainds, while Tiamat is known as a god of greed, wealth and vengeance." That doesn't say the Dawn War happened. It's just a reference to the Dawn War pantheon mentioned in the DMG, which says explicitly that it's a 4e pantheon. 4e. Not 5e. You are assuming that the Dawn War happened, despite Fizban's not saying or implying that it did. And you are assuming that if it did, the 5e list of gods is the same as 4e, which isn't said anywhere in 5e. [/QUOTE]

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