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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrozenChrono" data-source="post: 4578022" data-attributes="member: 70738">Forked from: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showpost.php?postid=4577230" target="_blank"> Tempests destroying two-hander style? </a>Everyone seems to believe the double weapons are the best tempest fighter weapons hands down. I think we're reading the rules wrong. You only get the +1 to hit, and +1 or +2 to damage when wielding two weapons. The book states that a double weapon is "like wielding a weapon in each hand" but it never specifies the context in which they should be treated that way other than the main hand and off hand being used in powers. It also specifies that only one end of the blade is counted as off hand.Here's the relevant book text.It says nothing about abilities, or feats that require having two weapons. I could see people reading the rules differently than me, but even then RAW only the second damage die side has the off hand property. Martial Power specifically states "when you wield two melee weapons" it's not stated to treat double weapons as two weapons anywhere but in reference to powers.Now think about the implications for tempest fighters. Lets use the short sword as the base line.+4 to hit+2 damaged6 Spend a feat on the double sword and you get by one of my interpretations+3 to hitd8 Defensive, but no bonus from Two weapon defense -1 to Ref Def(this would make the double sword less effective than regular weapons for the tempest but keep it effective for anyone other than Tempest Fighters)By the most I see allowable by RAW+3 to hit main hand+1 damage main hand+4 to hit off hand+2 damage off handd8+1 to ACNow let's spend a feat on another superior weapon, the Katar and you get+4 to hit+2 damaged6High CritHmm, that second one almost seems . . . . balanced? reasonable? RAI?the +3 to hit and +1 damage on the main hand of the double sword are made up for by it's d8 which is just better than the katar. The def property is matched against high crit.Mwa ha! Now other weapon tempest fighters can have their day!</blockquote>

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