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<blockquote data-quote="FrozenChrono" data-source="post: 4582703" data-attributes="member: 70738">If the rules are clear, why do so many people ask for clarification? I've sited my sources and my reasons for my interpretation, the FAQ quote you sited in no way diverges from my second interpretation. Treating double weapons as single weapons in no way makes both ends off hand. In fact it supports my interpretation because the double sword is treated as two single weapons, meaning that each weapon can have different properties.Would you mind posting a link to the WOTC_logan thread. I've lost track of it. Thanks.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fabrication&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fab`ri*ca&quot;tion\, n. [L. fabricatio; cf. F. fabrication.]1.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The act of fabricating, framing, or constructing; construction;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; manufacture; as, the fabrication of a bridge, a church, or a&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; government.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; That's an odd thing to say about someone, but it's clearly a false statement. There's no way I could do anything of those things on a forum . . . so you must be lying. Dun dun dun!Sorry, I really couldn't resist. Anyway so here's a few facts you may not have noticed, at least I hope you haven't cause then I'll have written them twice for no good reason and I hate wasting effort!&nbsp;<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Flavor text =\= rules text.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">The light blade and heavy blade&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; being separate isn't part of my interpretation, it was a side-note.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; (though because of how useless it makes the rapier I'd likely house&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; rule it into a heavy blade only)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">The point was different sides can&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; have different properties (the Urgrosh is only half / axe half&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; spear) [but all man]</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">In the explanation of double&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; weapons it specifically names one side as the off hand side, and the&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; other as the main hand side.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Therefore: only one side has the offhand property!</li>
</ul>I think I've already answered this. Next!I enjoy that you started that paragraph by pointing out an option you don't like, shows you have multiple dimensions, you're conflicted, an interesting character. Anyway I mostly agree with you here&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!&nbsp; &nbsp; :eek:"&nbsp; data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> I just think there are more &quot;good and viable&quot; options for tempest fighters than double weapons. Also I don't think that word means what you think it means. You might want to get that checked. Well I think it'd be cool if anyone but halflings had any reason to use the rapier. Also a solid statement of &quot;while wielding a double weapon only the end held by your offhand has the offhand property&quot; would probably help clear things up up the rule with skeptics. What would I possibly accomplish by trying to confuse people about the rules. I'm giving people a reasonable interpretation that keeps double weapons from being the end all Tempest weapon that many seem to think it is. Also I don't see anyone on this forum churning . . . at least I don't think I do. What are the symptoms? Nausea? I hope it's not nausea. I have a tender stomach. Does anyone else need some Pepto Bismol? I'll make the run!Again, the FAQ response supports my interpretation. Other than that I'm not really sure. Maybe if the rules are clear people will just be like &quot;oh that's lame, lets do this instead,&quot; maybe they'll keep complaining until they pollute the ozone layer so badly the sun burns us all up in a supernova (yes, supernovas and ozone layer decay are related. What did they teach you in school?), or maybe they'll be so disingenuous they'll convince us all that they're right and dragons will erupt from the Earth then chaos will ensue . . . CHAOS!!!( I don't like being called a liar for presenting my ideas. I'm genuinely sorry if you felt insulted by anything I said before or during this post. I tend to respond sarcastically when confronted by people who use the same argument repeatedly without giving evidence that my interpretation is wrong)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrozenChrono, post: 4582703, member: 70738"] If the rules are clear, why do so many people ask for clarification? I've sited my sources and my reasons for my interpretation, the FAQ quote you sited in no way diverges from my second interpretation. Treating double weapons as single weapons in no way makes both ends off hand. In fact it supports my interpretation because the double sword is treated as [I]two[/I] single weapons, meaning that each weapon can have different properties. Would you mind posting a link to the WOTC_logan thread. I've lost track of it. Thanks. [B]Fabrication[/B] Fab`ri*ca"tion\, n. [L. fabricatio; cf. F. fabrication.]1. The act of fabricating, framing, or constructing; construction; manufacture; as, the fabrication of a bridge, a church, or a government. That's an odd thing to say about someone, but it's clearly a false statement. There's no way I could do anything of those things on a forum . . . so you must be lying. Dun dun dun! Sorry, I really couldn't resist. Anyway so here's a few facts you may not have noticed, at least I hope you haven't cause then I'll have written them twice for no good reason and I [I]hate[/I] wasting effort! [LIST] [*]Flavor text =\= rules text. [*]The light blade and heavy blade being separate isn't part of my interpretation, it was a side-note. (though because of how useless it makes the rapier I'd likely house rule it into a heavy blade only) [*]The point was different sides can have different properties (the Urgrosh is only half / axe half spear) [but all man] [*]In the explanation of double weapons it specifically names one side as the off hand side, and the other as the main hand side. [*]Therefore: only one side has the offhand property! [/LIST] I think I've already answered this. Next! I enjoy that you started that paragraph by pointing out an option you don't like, shows you have multiple dimensions, you're conflicted, an interesting character. Anyway I mostly agree with you here :eek: I just think there are more "good and viable" options for tempest fighters than double weapons. Also I don't think that word means what you think it means. You might want to get that checked. Well I think it'd be cool if anyone but halflings had any reason to use the rapier. Also a solid statement of "while wielding a double weapon only the end held by your offhand has the offhand property" would probably help clear things up up the rule with skeptics. What would I possibly accomplish by trying to confuse people about the rules. I'm giving people a reasonable interpretation that keeps double weapons from being the end all Tempest weapon that many seem to think it is. Also I don't see anyone on this forum churning . . . at least I don't think I do. What are the symptoms? Nausea? I hope it's not nausea. I have a tender stomach. Does anyone else need some Pepto Bismol? I'll make the run! Again, the FAQ response supports my interpretation. Other than that I'm not really sure. Maybe if the rules are clear people will just be like "oh that's lame, lets do this instead," maybe they'll keep complaining until they pollute the ozone layer so badly the sun burns us all up in a supernova (yes, supernovas and ozone layer decay are related. What did they teach you in school?), or maybe they'll be so disingenuous they'll convince us all that they're right and dragons will erupt from the Earth then chaos will ensue . . . CHAOS!!! ( I don't like being called a liar for presenting my ideas. I'm genuinely sorry if you felt insulted by anything I said before or during this post. I tend to respond sarcastically when confronted by people who use the same argument repeatedly without giving evidence that my interpretation is wrong) [/QUOTE]

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