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<blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 1048328" data-attributes="member: 6939"><p>Okay, lets try this a different way...</p><p></p><p> </p><p>This is the quote you say is relevant. But lets look at it more closely.</p><p>It is a conditional statement. *IF* you are weilding one-handed, *THEN* it can't be used as a double weapon.</p><p></p><p>So the key is to see who meets the first part of that conditional.</p><p></p><p>ie.</p><p></p><p>A creature flying can be targetted by magic missle. Is also a conditional statement. But it does NOT mean that all creatures can fly.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>This raises the question of *who* meets this conditional. *WHO* can weild a double weapon in one hand? Everybody? If you say weapon and weilder size doesn't matter, than we are back to the grig using the Huge double axe; and that is patently absurd. So we need to look at the rest of the rules to see who meets this conditional criteria.</p><p></p><p>Well there it is. A creature one size category larger can weild it one handed. That is the way to meet the conditional. Just like picking a hawk would meet the flying conditional.</p><p></p><p>Yes, you are right, *anyone* weilding it one-handed is affected by the above rule. But *only* those large enough can wield it one handed. An orc using his double axe is not large enough to wield it one handed, and he cannot fly; therefore neither rule affects him.</p><p></p><p>Hope that clears things up. I would love to go toe to toe with HS; it is kinda fun. But in this case he is right. (okay, most cases...unless he is being too literal <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) </p><p></p><p>The rule is not useless, but it only applys to certain creatures in certain situations.</p><p></p><p>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coredump, post: 1048328, member: 6939"] Okay, lets try this a different way... This is the quote you say is relevant. But lets look at it more closely. It is a conditional statement. *IF* you are weilding one-handed, *THEN* it can't be used as a double weapon. So the key is to see who meets the first part of that conditional. ie. A creature flying can be targetted by magic missle. Is also a conditional statement. But it does NOT mean that all creatures can fly. This raises the question of *who* meets this conditional. *WHO* can weild a double weapon in one hand? Everybody? If you say weapon and weilder size doesn't matter, than we are back to the grig using the Huge double axe; and that is patently absurd. So we need to look at the rest of the rules to see who meets this conditional criteria. Well there it is. A creature one size category larger can weild it one handed. That is the way to meet the conditional. Just like picking a hawk would meet the flying conditional. Yes, you are right, *anyone* weilding it one-handed is affected by the above rule. But *only* those large enough can wield it one handed. An orc using his double axe is not large enough to wield it one handed, and he cannot fly; therefore neither rule affects him. Hope that clears things up. I would love to go toe to toe with HS; it is kinda fun. But in this case he is right. (okay, most cases...unless he is being too literal ;) ) The rule is not useless, but it only applys to certain creatures in certain situations. . [/QUOTE]
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