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<blockquote data-quote="TerraDave" data-source="post: 4199936" data-attributes="member: 22260"><p>I agree its not much of an issue, especially compared to past editions. If you were playing a 3E Warlock, it could easily be that you would just keep eldrich blasting the dragon. Its true a 3E wizard would be forced to throw different spells at it, but if that wizard had a <em>choice</em> (was more like a sorcerer) then you might just keep throwing the same spell at it. </p><p></p><p>More generally, 4E opens up options by:</p><p></p><p>-making most things standard (or minor!) actions vs. full round actions. You almost always have a move or something else you can do in addition to the attack. </p><p></p><p>-making it easier to move around (1-1 diagnols, less OA via reach, movement related powers...)</p><p></p><p>-giving at least two at wills to choose from</p><p></p><p>-all those other options. Encounters, dailies, the action point, the second wind, the additional stuff that some classes and races get...</p><p></p><p>Its true that 3E had a lot of options in <em>theory</em> (grapple, disarm, metamagic..) but in practice tactics tended to get repetative (full attack, tumble to flank and sneak attack, cast the most powerful spell left). From what I have seen, your <em>effective</em> 4E options will be greater then or equal to your 3E options.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerraDave, post: 4199936, member: 22260"] I agree its not much of an issue, especially compared to past editions. If you were playing a 3E Warlock, it could easily be that you would just keep eldrich blasting the dragon. Its true a 3E wizard would be forced to throw different spells at it, but if that wizard had a [I]choice[/I] (was more like a sorcerer) then you might just keep throwing the same spell at it. More generally, 4E opens up options by: -making most things standard (or minor!) actions vs. full round actions. You almost always have a move or something else you can do in addition to the attack. -making it easier to move around (1-1 diagnols, less OA via reach, movement related powers...) -giving at least two at wills to choose from -all those other options. Encounters, dailies, the action point, the second wind, the additional stuff that some classes and races get... Its true that 3E had a lot of options in [I]theory[/I] (grapple, disarm, metamagic..) but in practice tactics tended to get repetative (full attack, tumble to flank and sneak attack, cast the most powerful spell left). From what I have seen, your [I]effective[/I] 4E options will be greater then or equal to your 3E options. [/QUOTE]
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