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<blockquote data-quote="Atavar" data-source="post: 3572085" data-attributes="member: 7136">Something to keep in mind is that just because an underground species has darkvision does NOT necessarily mean that they do not use light sources.Imagine walking out of your home, into your town, and being able to see no further than 120 ft. away.&nbsp; When looking down the street or across a park, that isn't very far at all.&nbsp; Guess what?&nbsp; That's what every drow experiences in their cities, unless there are light sources within that city (e.g. street lamps).Now, a party of drow patrolling the surrounding tunnels probably won't use light sources.&nbsp; And similar small encounters that adventurers usually encounter would be in the same boat.&nbsp; But with large enough dwellings, light sources would probably be used by sentient species.I'm also reminded of the rules for vision in the astral plane.&nbsp; I believe that you &quot;see&quot; what appears to be a vast, empty expanse of grey-hued space, but you actually don't see objects until they are around 100 ft. away.&nbsp; So, those large, githyanki-filled cities floating around out there?&nbsp; You can't see them until you're on top of them.&nbsp; And they can't see you coming any sooner, either.Later,Atavar</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Atavar, post: 3572085, member: 7136"] Something to keep in mind is that just because an underground species has darkvision does NOT necessarily mean that they do not use light sources. Imagine walking out of your home, into your town, and being able to see no further than 120 ft. away. When looking down the street or across a park, that isn't very far at all. Guess what? That's what every drow experiences in their cities, unless there are light sources within that city (e.g. street lamps). Now, a party of drow patrolling the surrounding tunnels probably won't use light sources. And similar small encounters that adventurers usually encounter would be in the same boat. But with large enough dwellings, light sources would probably be used by sentient species. I'm also reminded of the rules for vision in the astral plane. I believe that you "see" what appears to be a vast, empty expanse of grey-hued space, but you actually don't see objects until they are around 100 ft. away. So, those large, githyanki-filled cities floating around out there? You can't see them until you're on top of them. And they can't see you coming any sooner, either. Later, Atavar [/QUOTE]

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