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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9891119" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Where white room fails. Fireball vs Sorcerous Burst. D8 vs d10. D10 better right. Well SB also has non fie options (20% of MM is resistant/immune) to fire.  On a critical hit say lvl 11 its 3d8vs 3d10. + 5 for dragon sorcerer.  Where the math breaks down is the exploding dice. On crits 6d8 vs 6d10 dice are rolled. Throw in empower spell though.  I'm sure you can math it out but outside a while room on paper fireball might still be better (margibally). I would still use SB due to non fire options. On paper the extra damage wins in reality it often doesnt matter due to overkill. A monster dies in 2 or 3 hits regardless of d8 or d10.  In a real game however SB crits are funny and thats also when you empower them. The explosion happens often enough it turns that two or 3 hits into 1 or 2. On paper firebolt might still be dealing more damage. But its not killing stuff any faster while SB is.  Its also useless for comparing danage to non damage. Control is really good its fairly useless if everyone does it though.</blockquote>