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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bad Paper" data-source="post: 3671199" data-attributes="member: 24674">I've seen this +4 bane trick on these boards before, and it smells like cheese.  You do not need the Craft Epic Arms/Armor feat to make a +4 bane weapon.  To me, that says "not epic."  Is there anywhere in the rules that explicitly say that a +4 bane weapon penetrates DR/epic, or is that just some extrapolation from the "+6 means epic" bit?Tangentially related, I could not find an epic spell called "Epic Weapon" or "Greater Epic Weapon."  Does one exist?  I couldn't figure out how to put it together from the spell-seeds list.  How would you make that one?  Or must you be stuck with crafting/buying a full-time epic weapon?</blockquote>