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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 6295285" data-attributes="member: 2518">And here is the problem. Leaving out out of combat powers forces you to run that part as a narrative, or leaves you with a lot of work to do to fill all the holes. You seem to content to run out of combat events purely as narrative with skill challenges, throw some level scaled DCs at your PCs, let them win or lose some small resources, maybe even fail forward, and continue till it comes to combat. But some people want it to be more.In my eyes, Out of Combat event are as important as In Combat events and they can kill as much as combat. And how can you adjudicate that in a fair way when you have to make up everything (unless you do that before the PCs even set out)? How can the PCs, with help from their knowledge checks, prepare for the dragon when even the DM does not know what the dragon can do out of combat? When you take what happens out of combat as seriously as you take combat itself then preparation for the out of combat things the dragon can throw at you are as important as bringing resist electricity potions against the lightning breath.I ask you this, would you allow your Skill Challenge to TPK the party? Even without a single round of combat happening? And if yes, how would you rule when and how they die? Make it up on the spot? And would you make the skill challenge unwinnable in the case the PCs go in unprepared and in a bad way?</blockquote>