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<blockquote data-quote="Neorealist" data-source="post: 3110920" data-attributes="member: 43571">Not sure wether or not this is explicit enough for you: The dragon lord class states specifically that the bonus increases granted by taking levels in it apply only to auras chosen as part of the features of the class itself, no mention is made of auras obtained from other sources.On the other hand, the draconic aura feature of the dragon shaman mentions the bonuses apply to your known auras, with no mention of where you got them from.So i'd have to say that no, dragon lord aura bonuses don't stack with dragon shaman aura bonuses, if only because of the wording of the dragon lord class.(upon further review, the dragon shaman class feature mentions that the auras are granted as part of the class features of the dragon shaman as well, not mentioning any other source where you might obtain them, let alone stating that the bonuses might apply to other auras. Dragon magic does expicitly state that an aura cannot be taken more than once, so i suppose since each classes bonuses only explicitly apply to auras granted by that class that there is no way to double-dip your bonuses. This is a rather convoluted way of banning things though; it's entirely reasonable that any given dm can decide differently.)So in that light you may want to recommend to the aspiring dragon shaman/dragon lord that s/he should purchase dragon magic, since i believe the shaman automatically gets all the auras mentioned in the phb II eventually?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neorealist, post: 3110920, member: 43571"] Not sure wether or not this is explicit enough for you: The dragon lord class states specifically that the bonus increases granted by taking levels in it apply only to auras chosen as part of the features of the class itself, no mention is made of auras obtained from other sources. On the other hand, the draconic aura feature of the dragon shaman mentions the bonuses apply to your known auras, with no mention of where you got them from. So i'd have to say that no, dragon lord aura bonuses don't stack with dragon shaman aura bonuses, if only because of the wording of the dragon lord class. (upon further review, the dragon shaman class feature mentions that the auras are granted as part of the class features of the dragon shaman as well, not mentioning any other source where you might obtain them, let alone stating that the bonuses might apply to other auras. Dragon magic does expicitly state that an aura cannot be taken more than once, so i suppose since each classes bonuses only explicitly apply to auras granted by that class that there is no way to double-dip your bonuses. This is a rather convoluted way of banning things though; it's entirely reasonable that any given dm can decide differently.) So in that light you may want to recommend to the aspiring dragon shaman/dragon lord that s/he should purchase dragon magic, since i believe the shaman automatically gets all the auras mentioned in the phb II eventually? [/QUOTE]

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