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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3585484" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Keep in mind that dragons have a level adjustment for a reason. Dragon racial hit dice are more awesome than even a Warblade's (Bo9S). Better skill points and saving throws than a Warblade. The best HD type, best saves, best BAB, and second-best skill points (as per the 3.5 Ranger or Bard).</p><p></p><p>Adding much to that beyond an occasional bonus feat or minor ability would be rather broken when leaving out the level adjustments that monster levels include. Dragons have lots of abilities and advantages, not just their high ability scores. So I dunno what you intend to do with them as PCs. Are dragons still going to be races, as well? And what would those races have by themselves?</p><p></p><p><em>*confuzzled*</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you going to consider changing some of the basic parameters for each class? Frex, draconic warriors getting d12 HD, 2 sp/level, strong Fortitude, poor Reflex and Will, full BAB, and decent class features; draconic experts getting d8 HD, 6 sp/level, strong saves all around, medium BAB, better class features, and ranger-esque spellcasting; and draconic adepts getting d10 HD, 4 sp/level, strong Will, poor Fortitude and Reflex, medium BAB, weaker class features, and bard-esque spellcasting. Or something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3585484, member: 13966"] Keep in mind that dragons have a level adjustment for a reason. Dragon racial hit dice are more awesome than even a Warblade's (Bo9S). Better skill points and saving throws than a Warblade. The best HD type, best saves, best BAB, and second-best skill points (as per the 3.5 Ranger or Bard). Adding much to that beyond an occasional bonus feat or minor ability would be rather broken when leaving out the level adjustments that monster levels include. Dragons have lots of abilities and advantages, not just their high ability scores. So I dunno what you intend to do with them as PCs. Are dragons still going to be races, as well? And what would those races have by themselves? [I]*confuzzled*[/I] Are you going to consider changing some of the basic parameters for each class? Frex, draconic warriors getting d12 HD, 2 sp/level, strong Fortitude, poor Reflex and Will, full BAB, and decent class features; draconic experts getting d8 HD, 6 sp/level, strong saves all around, medium BAB, better class features, and ranger-esque spellcasting; and draconic adepts getting d10 HD, 4 sp/level, strong Will, poor Fortitude and Reflex, medium BAB, weaker class features, and bard-esque spellcasting. Or something. [/QUOTE]
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