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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4906059" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>They did over year ago. If a weapon can be used as an implement, modifiers from feats apply if they do not specifically state attacks by the weapon keyword. Powers on items that have keywords grant those Keywords to any powers the item power in question is used in conjunction with. Which means that if you use a power through a flaming weapon while using the weapon's at-will, you treat that power as tho it had the Fire keyword... because it -does-.</p><p></p><p>Also, At-Will, Encounter, and Daily are no longer keywords, for the above reason.</p><p></p><p>These -are- from the FAQ.</p><p></p><p>As for the weapons themselves, you can use any enhancement bonus, properties, critical hit, or powers not mentioning weapon attacks, but you cannot use their proficiency bonus, or powers mentioning weapon attacks.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, they came to the consensus that doing it a different (segregated) way makes the Swordmage inaccessible to new players, in that a new player doesn't grok when he can apply his Weapon Focus to his light blade attacks, even tho 'light blade' is an implement, and the Swordmage is using it as a light blade.</p><p></p><p>And then they designed more classes that can take advantage of this non-segregated state, like the Sorcerer, and the Monk. To say that the developers don't like it is flat out ignoring their own PHB2 and PHB3 design work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do it. It's how things are designed these days.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So to answer the original question:</p><p></p><p>Yes, you get the bonus to attack rolls with any Arcane power that you use through any accessory that can change the damage it deals. A Fiery weapon transforms the powers used with it to have the Fire keyword, so Draconic Spellcasting will apply.</p><p></p><p>If you have fire breath, the only keywords Draconic Spellcasting cares about are Fire, and Arcane. If it has these, you're golden.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The only restriction on item powers is that of magic staffs, rods, wands, holy symbols, totems, and tomes. They specifically state you can only use them if you have the ability to use them with any of your powers. Weapons don't have that problem. Other than that, you can use an item power whenever it says you can. </p><p></p><p>CAVEAT: Obviously, using a weapon doesn't allow you to use a power that verbatim mentions 'weapon powers' with powers that do not have the weapon keyword. But that's a rule written directly into the power, and not a rule that powers have. By the same token, you can use a Thunderwave staff to knock enemies prone instead of pushing them, even if you're using it as a weapon.</p><p></p><p>And yes, you -can- use a Thunderwave staff as a weapon, it's in the damn rules, p 240.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4906059, member: 71571"] They did over year ago. If a weapon can be used as an implement, modifiers from feats apply if they do not specifically state attacks by the weapon keyword. Powers on items that have keywords grant those Keywords to any powers the item power in question is used in conjunction with. Which means that if you use a power through a flaming weapon while using the weapon's at-will, you treat that power as tho it had the Fire keyword... because it -does-. Also, At-Will, Encounter, and Daily are no longer keywords, for the above reason. These -are- from the FAQ. As for the weapons themselves, you can use any enhancement bonus, properties, critical hit, or powers not mentioning weapon attacks, but you cannot use their proficiency bonus, or powers mentioning weapon attacks. No, they came to the consensus that doing it a different (segregated) way makes the Swordmage inaccessible to new players, in that a new player doesn't grok when he can apply his Weapon Focus to his light blade attacks, even tho 'light blade' is an implement, and the Swordmage is using it as a light blade. And then they designed more classes that can take advantage of this non-segregated state, like the Sorcerer, and the Monk. To say that the developers don't like it is flat out ignoring their own PHB2 and PHB3 design work. Do it. It's how things are designed these days. So to answer the original question: Yes, you get the bonus to attack rolls with any Arcane power that you use through any accessory that can change the damage it deals. A Fiery weapon transforms the powers used with it to have the Fire keyword, so Draconic Spellcasting will apply. If you have fire breath, the only keywords Draconic Spellcasting cares about are Fire, and Arcane. If it has these, you're golden. The only restriction on item powers is that of magic staffs, rods, wands, holy symbols, totems, and tomes. They specifically state you can only use them if you have the ability to use them with any of your powers. Weapons don't have that problem. Other than that, you can use an item power whenever it says you can. CAVEAT: Obviously, using a weapon doesn't allow you to use a power that verbatim mentions 'weapon powers' with powers that do not have the weapon keyword. But that's a rule written directly into the power, and not a rule that powers have. By the same token, you can use a Thunderwave staff to knock enemies prone instead of pushing them, even if you're using it as a weapon. And yes, you -can- use a Thunderwave staff as a weapon, it's in the damn rules, p 240. [/QUOTE]
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