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<blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 144442" data-attributes="member: 96"><p>To be fair, Mjolnir is at its core just a magic warhammer with a metric boatload of abilities layered on - and I mean the mythological Mjolnir, not the writeup in D&Dg.</p><p></p><p>Heck, where do you think they <u>got</u> most of the weapon abilities and magic items in the DMG? <em>Gauntlets of ogre power</em>, <em>girdle of giant strength</em>, <em>hammer of thunderbolts</em>...you think the way they interact is an accident? It's all from epic myths, folks. Gygax knew what he was doing - he stole from the best.</p><p></p><p>I have a feeling that myth and legend are where they are getting their ideas for what is possible with super-high levels of skill as well. Want to duplicate Cuchulain's spear feat? You need a grossly high bonus on your Jump and Balance checks so you can leap from spear to spear as they fly through the air - and of course 4 attacks. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Any set of rules cannot hope to give you the epic of Gilgamesh or the <em>Kalevala</em>. At best it can give you the tools to make your own - and as far as I've seen, the ELH does that. The players need to apply the imagination and turn that DC80 swim check into Beowulf in full mail, holding a sword as he swims through a storm. The players need to apply the inspiration to turn a +5 magic spear with a laundry list of abilities into Gungnir or Gae Bolga. No book can do that for you.</p><p></p><p>J</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drnuncheon, post: 144442, member: 96"] To be fair, Mjolnir is at its core just a magic warhammer with a metric boatload of abilities layered on - and I mean the mythological Mjolnir, not the writeup in D&Dg. Heck, where do you think they [u]got[/u] most of the weapon abilities and magic items in the DMG? [I]Gauntlets of ogre power[/I], [I]girdle of giant strength[/I], [I]hammer of thunderbolts[/I]...you think the way they interact is an accident? It's all from epic myths, folks. Gygax knew what he was doing - he stole from the best. I have a feeling that myth and legend are where they are getting their ideas for what is possible with super-high levels of skill as well. Want to duplicate Cuchulain's spear feat? You need a grossly high bonus on your Jump and Balance checks so you can leap from spear to spear as they fly through the air - and of course 4 attacks. :D Any set of rules cannot hope to give you the epic of Gilgamesh or the [i]Kalevala[/i]. At best it can give you the tools to make your own - and as far as I've seen, the ELH does that. The players need to apply the imagination and turn that DC80 swim check into Beowulf in full mail, holding a sword as he swims through a storm. The players need to apply the inspiration to turn a +5 magic spear with a laundry list of abilities into Gungnir or Gae Bolga. No book can do that for you. J [/QUOTE]
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