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<blockquote data-quote="skaven13" data-source="post: 845102" data-attributes="member: 6967">Thought more people....I thought more people would have been talking about haste and how they took it from a powerful 3rd level spell and turned it into a weak 3rd level spell.&nbsp; I can understand not wanting to overshadow a metamagic feat by casting two spells in the same round.&nbsp; I saw my dm cringe when my character resorted to hasted magic missile spells.&nbsp; But, they could have removed the partial action and replaced it with the extra attack that was presented in dragon. So:+4 to ac, extra attack on full attack or +30' to speed.I think this would have kept Haste as a good spell to take, and fixes the double casting.&nbsp; But they removed the ac bonus and gave a +1 ac, +1 reflex, and +1 to hit ???&nbsp; If they wanted to reduce the AC bonus, why not something that falls in line like +2 AC and +2 initiative?&nbsp; Or even the +1 initiative and +1 reflex?&nbsp; Or make the +1's level based?Instead they turn a 3rd level spell into 2, maybe 3, first level spells.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="skaven13, post: 845102, member: 6967"] [b]Thought more people....[/b] I thought more people would have been talking about haste and how they took it from a powerful 3rd level spell and turned it into a weak 3rd level spell. I can understand not wanting to overshadow a metamagic feat by casting two spells in the same round. I saw my dm cringe when my character resorted to hasted magic missile spells. But, they could have removed the partial action and replaced it with the extra attack that was presented in dragon. So: +4 to ac, extra attack on full attack or +30' to speed. I think this would have kept Haste as a good spell to take, and fixes the double casting. But they removed the ac bonus and gave a +1 ac, +1 reflex, and +1 [I]to hit[/I] ??? If they wanted to reduce the AC bonus, why not something that falls in line like +2 AC and +2 initiative? Or even the +1 initiative and +1 reflex? Or make the +1's level based? Instead they turn a 3rd level spell into 2, maybe 3, first level spells. [/QUOTE]

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