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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 849031" data-attributes="member: 1134">I don't even call thsoe differences worth a .01 level.Slay living doesn't work on undead, fine, that means somethig I suppose.&nbsp; But constructs, I doubt heal would work on them anyways and even is a helaing spell works on objects, how many constructs worth casting a spell at are effected by spells in general.Death effect, yeah its blocked by a death ward, but its also a death effect which means bringing you back is much harder, a simple raise dead sell isn't going to cut it anymore.&nbsp; So IMO that's a wash and not a penalty.As for harm beign a will save vs slay living being a fort save well so what? Harm vs big monsters, slay living vs spellcasters, rogues and the like.&nbsp; That's not a penalty that's just different targets their sueful against.&nbsp; And only is a balnce issue if your DM stacks the deck with one type of monster.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 849031, member: 1134"] I don't even call thsoe differences worth a .01 level. Slay living doesn't work on undead, fine, that means somethig I suppose. But constructs, I doubt heal would work on them anyways and even is a helaing spell works on objects, how many constructs worth casting a spell at are effected by spells in general. Death effect, yeah its blocked by a death ward, but its also a death effect which means bringing you back is much harder, a simple raise dead sell isn't going to cut it anymore. So IMO that's a wash and not a penalty. As for harm beign a will save vs slay living being a fort save well so what? Harm vs big monsters, slay living vs spellcasters, rogues and the like. That's not a penalty that's just different targets their sueful against. And only is a balnce issue if your DM stacks the deck with one type of monster. [/QUOTE]

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