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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 889922" data-attributes="member: 8158">OK, out of all of that, he only got 4 more points of AC than if he'd been wearing a chain shirt with equivalent qualities.Sure, it's a +4 part of the equation, assuming your dwarf's Dex is 13 or lower. And for that you trade off a big chunk of mobility and take some penalties to dex-based skills (which matters to fighters little, but rangers a lot). I see some fighters take it, and I see some fighters pass on it. Done it myself. It's an option that has benefits and penalties.Never said it was, but a ranger doesn't assign a decent number to Dex just to &quot;make up for&quot; light armor. Dex is a prime place for a ranger to put a decent number (14+) regardless of the armor he wears.&nbsp;*does a quick double-take*Maybe I misread. +4 STR, CON, and +2 to Will saves in exchange for a -2 AC is a break-even deal? Think I'll just post the eyes-rolling emoticon and be done with my response lol <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felon, post: 889922, member: 8158"] OK, out of all of that, he only got 4 more points of AC than if he'd been wearing a chain shirt with equivalent qualities. Sure, it's a +4 part of the equation, assuming your dwarf's Dex is 13 or lower. And for that you trade off a big chunk of mobility and take some penalties to dex-based skills (which matters to fighters little, but rangers a lot). I see some fighters take it, and I see some fighters pass on it. Done it myself. It's an option that has benefits and penalties. Never said it was, but a ranger doesn't assign a decent number to Dex just to "make up for" light armor. Dex is a prime place for a ranger to put a decent number (14+) regardless of the armor he wears. *does a quick double-take* Maybe I misread. +4 STR, CON, and +2 to Will saves in exchange for a -2 AC is a break-even deal? Think I'll just post the eyes-rolling emoticon and be done with my response lol :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

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