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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 890851" data-attributes="member: 5889">One of the things I really don't like about the new ranger is the copycatting of certain abliities.Evasion, woodland stride, and hide in plain sight are rip offs of other abilities. Although HIPS is from a Prc, so not as bad imo.This was why I was normally so opposed to bonus feats for the ranger, its just latching on another ripped off ability.But then again, the ranger is kind of a hodgepodge regardless of your opinion of the ideal ranger, and wotc doesn't seem to have a problem with copying of abilities, as long as its only with two classes (ie. turning undead, animal companions, evasion, uncanny dodge). But in that spirit, I again hate the addition of evasion. Now 3 classes have it!!! Its getting to the point that its not a special ability, its a &quot;what do you mean you don't have evasion?&quot;As just a thought, instead of evasion, why not give the ranger an initiative bonus? IT represents being able to handle surprise, its a powerful ability, and one no one else has.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 890851, member: 5889"] One of the things I really don't like about the new ranger is the copycatting of certain abliities. Evasion, woodland stride, and hide in plain sight are rip offs of other abilities. Although HIPS is from a Prc, so not as bad imo. This was why I was normally so opposed to bonus feats for the ranger, its just latching on another ripped off ability. But then again, the ranger is kind of a hodgepodge regardless of your opinion of the ideal ranger, and wotc doesn't seem to have a problem with copying of abilities, as long as its only with two classes (ie. turning undead, animal companions, evasion, uncanny dodge). But in that spirit, I again hate the addition of evasion. Now 3 classes have it!!! Its getting to the point that its not a special ability, its a "what do you mean you don't have evasion?" As just a thought, instead of evasion, why not give the ranger an initiative bonus? IT represents being able to handle surprise, its a powerful ability, and one no one else has. [/QUOTE]

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