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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 5210237" data-attributes="member: 40177"><p>Here is kind of a good point. The designers did a good thing by cutting out the power source - in fact, I'm amazed they did it. It was a great step, and was a bigger step than I thought they'd take. Kudos to them for doing it.</p><p></p><p>That being said, read what Rich Baker had to say, here:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, it's important for someone that's new to the game to have Eladrin, so we need to fit them in somehow. But to hell with the people that like playing the Divine Classes... god knows there's no one out there who *always* plays a Paladin, right? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>What about the people who always play a tiefling? Or the people that always play a half-orc? Should those be accomodated? I hope not. Because it leads to the "kitchen sink syndrome", which I think is universally decried to be a "bad thing" when it comes to Dark Sun. </p><p></p><p>My two cents? WotC knows that the Feywild sells. It's an interesting new 4eism, and it generally works. My current campaign is set in the feywild, and I do like it. And I know a lot of 4ers like it, too. I believe there's talk of a feywild planar book coming out, too, right? Not to mention a lot of fey-themed monsters out there. Putting in a feywild helps GMs access that material.</p><p></p><p>Which makes me wonder - and this is an honest question here, no snark or anything intended - why is it okay to say "these races do not exist, or if they do, it's in tiny amounts" for most of the races/classes that shouldn't be in Dark Sun... but they have to shoehorn in Eladrin and the Feywild?</p><p></p><p>Why can't they just throw in a sidebar explaining this, rather than trying to tie it all into the core setting? </p><p></p><p>Seriously - what does the feywild ADD to the setting? Especially when everyone is making a point of saying it only exists in a small amount? The way I see it, when someone says "hey, it's barely in existence on Athas!" I hear "We had to find a way to put it in, but we kind of think maybe it'll annoy the purists a bit too much, so we deliberately gimped it and pushed it off to the side". </p><p></p><p>Again, though, it's all academic to me. I'm buying my Dark Sun book the day it comes out. I've been planning my campaign for a year. The guys at WotC are doing great work, and I'm sure it's going to be a perfectly fine product. I just personally believe they made two poorly thought out design decisions that I will not be using in my own game.</p><p></p><p>Let it be said now, though, that if the one Dark Sun adventure that gets released prominently features an Athasian feywild, I may have to go on strike. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wik, post: 5210237, member: 40177"] Here is kind of a good point. The designers did a good thing by cutting out the power source - in fact, I'm amazed they did it. It was a great step, and was a bigger step than I thought they'd take. Kudos to them for doing it. That being said, read what Rich Baker had to say, here: So, it's important for someone that's new to the game to have Eladrin, so we need to fit them in somehow. But to hell with the people that like playing the Divine Classes... god knows there's no one out there who *always* plays a Paladin, right? ;) What about the people who always play a tiefling? Or the people that always play a half-orc? Should those be accomodated? I hope not. Because it leads to the "kitchen sink syndrome", which I think is universally decried to be a "bad thing" when it comes to Dark Sun. My two cents? WotC knows that the Feywild sells. It's an interesting new 4eism, and it generally works. My current campaign is set in the feywild, and I do like it. And I know a lot of 4ers like it, too. I believe there's talk of a feywild planar book coming out, too, right? Not to mention a lot of fey-themed monsters out there. Putting in a feywild helps GMs access that material. Which makes me wonder - and this is an honest question here, no snark or anything intended - why is it okay to say "these races do not exist, or if they do, it's in tiny amounts" for most of the races/classes that shouldn't be in Dark Sun... but they have to shoehorn in Eladrin and the Feywild? Why can't they just throw in a sidebar explaining this, rather than trying to tie it all into the core setting? Seriously - what does the feywild ADD to the setting? Especially when everyone is making a point of saying it only exists in a small amount? The way I see it, when someone says "hey, it's barely in existence on Athas!" I hear "We had to find a way to put it in, but we kind of think maybe it'll annoy the purists a bit too much, so we deliberately gimped it and pushed it off to the side". Again, though, it's all academic to me. I'm buying my Dark Sun book the day it comes out. I've been planning my campaign for a year. The guys at WotC are doing great work, and I'm sure it's going to be a perfectly fine product. I just personally believe they made two poorly thought out design decisions that I will not be using in my own game. Let it be said now, though, that if the one Dark Sun adventure that gets released prominently features an Athasian feywild, I may have to go on strike. :) [/QUOTE]
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